niggle Posted May 4, 2011 Report Posted May 4, 2011 I have heard on good authority that normal grade petrol now contains 5% alcohol !! Alcohol is not very friendly to fuel systems pipes,carbs,injectors etc So if you wanted to avoid this then top grade 97 would be better. The international technical department for Total unofficially told a customer of mine,who over a short period of time was having numerous fuel related problems with anything from his petrol lawnmower to his vintage car collection. I wouldn't of thought it is only limited to one company from what I was told. Nige Quote
duncan Posted May 4, 2011 Report Posted May 4, 2011 this is worth a read http://www.eaa.org/autofuel/autogas/test_kit.asp Quote
diverdave Posted May 4, 2011 Report Posted May 4, 2011 "I have heard on good authority that normal grade petrol now contains 5% alcohol !! Alcohol is not very friendly to fuel systems pipes,carbs,injectors etc" From the quick research I've just done its been like that for 3-4 years (sneaky B******s and it looks like it will get worse Diesel as well. It probably explains a lot of problems we've all had in recent years and makes sense of the boom in Oil Seed Rape (yellow fields) See link below and links within. Low Emissions cost us the consumer BIG TIME Just give me back my suck, bang, blow leaded 2/4 stroke PLEASE It's got nothing to do with Emissions it's all about profit and tax and Quote
phonehome Posted May 5, 2011 Report Posted May 5, 2011 Just on a point of accuracy, Oil Seed Rape is used to make Bio Diesel NOT ethanol. Quote
diverdave Posted May 5, 2011 Report Posted May 5, 2011 Just on a point of accuracy, Oil Seed Rape is used to make Bio Diesel NOT ethanol. Yep, put it in an HDI or Blue Motion and see what happens ? Same problems different fuel. DYOR When we went unleaded it was well publicised. What notice did we get of petrol going organic ? Where does it say this product contains 5% Methanol/Ethanol ? Or 10/15/20/30% ? Where does it say this product may DAMAGE your ENGINE ? Cornish Pasties have to come from Cornwall ! Petrol by definition has to come from refined crude oil not some farmers wheat field !!! Quote
Paul D Posted May 6, 2011 Report Posted May 6, 2011 Nigel, The "Premium" grades have contained ethanol for quite some time ( especially Tesco etc. ). Works fine in the Etec mind as I have always filled with the higher octane stuff thinking it was a good idea ! Mind you no valves to destroy The other problem worth noting is for those who have fibreglass tanks. The ethanol in the fuel leeches out chemicals from the fibreglass and this then can cause engine damage. Also ethanol absorbs water, so this is one of the reasons it is not good in aircraft as they could then be prone to icing. Not an issue with a boat I would guess. Diverdave, I think you will have to get used to more "green" fuels - changed fuel as oil gets more scarce, this is the real reason - its a fact of life. "Low emissions cost us big time" is so untrue. I recall driving a Ford Anglia doing 25 MPG if lucky - Old style 2 stroke ( say a nice mercury blueband ) would be hugely more expensive to run and maintain than a modern day 2 stroke. Besides, I like boating through water which no longer has a sheen of oil across it. Quote
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