johnnyb. Posted July 1, 2012 Report Share Posted July 1, 2012 Hi lads I lift my anchor with a float and a ring and when I get it up square to the boat so it doesnt get around the back of the engine (got caught like that before) we pull it in at the side of the boat. No problem but in a choppy sea its hard to keep the chain +anchor away from the side of the boat, and Im getting a few scratches and dents in the rubber fendering. I have a rail about 2ft long on that side of the boat and I was thinking of making up a piece of plywood that I can hook on the rail to protect the side of the boat.I cant be the only one with this problem..ANY IDEAS?? many thanks Johnnyb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niggle Posted July 1, 2012 Report Share Posted July 1, 2012 Johnny on my last boat I used/mounted a small bow roller to the top of the gunnel which just kept it away from the side of the hull,worked a treat Nige Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyb. Posted July 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2012 Thanks Nigle sounds interesting,Perhaps I could even rig up one of those rubber trailer rollers,its only got to go about 6" over the gunnells to clear and wouldnt take up so much room as a piece of plywood,wouldnt rot either.mmmmm still pondering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted July 2, 2012 Report Share Posted July 2, 2012 You need to see the new solution on Alfresco - talk about "proper job"! Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LilBrit Posted July 2, 2012 Report Share Posted July 2, 2012 Interesting post, I'm thinking of alternatives to the electric winch for the new boat as it is a slow job dropping the anchor in deeper water. I will probably use the same Alderney buoy method as with "Eileen" but maybe go up from the 5kg Bruce. Had the same issues as the OP when retrieving the chain over the side of the boat and used to lay a rubber car floor mat over the gunnels to try and keep the damage down. Nigels idea of a bow roller is interesting, it doesnt have to stand too much weight and as it tapers in from both ends to the middle should help keep the chain in the roller. Guess it would be ideal to make it quickly detachable so it isnt in the way while drift fishing? Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky Posted July 2, 2012 Report Share Posted July 2, 2012 Interesting post, I'm thinking of alternatives to the electric winch for the new boat as it is a slow job dropping the anchor in deeper water. I will probably use the same Alderney buoy method as with "Eileen" but maybe go up from the 5kg Bruce. Had the same issues as the OP when retrieving the chain over the side of the boat and used to lay a rubber car floor mat over the gunnels to try and keep the damage down. Nigels idea of a bow roller is interesting, it doesnt have to stand too much weight and as it tapers in from both ends to the middle should help keep the chain in the roller. Guess it would be ideal to make it quickly detachable so it isnt in the way while drift fishing? Paul Paul. Ihave electric winch on marichelle and we drop anchor in free running capstan and anchor fine, must admit its a bit slower coming up though. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LilBrit Posted July 2, 2012 Report Share Posted July 2, 2012 Interesting post, I'm thinking of alternatives to the electric winch for the new boat as it is a slow job dropping the anchor in deeper water. I will probably use the same Alderney buoy method as with "Eileen" but maybe go up from the 5kg Bruce. Had the same issues as the OP when retrieving the chain over the side of the boat and used to lay a rubber car floor mat over the gunnels to try and keep the damage down. Nigels idea of a bow roller is interesting, it doesnt have to stand too much weight and as it tapers in from both ends to the middle should help keep the chain in the roller. Guess it would be ideal to make it quickly detachable so it isnt in the way while drift fishing? Paul Paul. Ihave electric winch on marichelle and we drop anchor in free running capstan and anchor fine, must admit its a bit slower coming up though. . New to this winching lark, are they all fitted with free running capstan mode? Can't see how mine would work like that but it would be handy! It is a Lewmar winch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niggle Posted July 2, 2012 Report Share Posted July 2, 2012 On my lewmar I have to use a special spanner for free running,didn't think I'd like the winch but getting use to it and its not to slow even when retrieving in 200ft of water Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky Posted July 2, 2012 Report Share Posted July 2, 2012 Mines a lewmar v2, as nige says. you need the handle to loosely undo capstan top then let it go down and then tighten it up. Make sure the windlass has been serviced as they do collect alot of crap, Its easy to do, look in handbook or on internet. If im on my own i use switch in cabin and very slowly motor towards the anchor so as not to strain motor. Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gas Posted July 2, 2012 Report Share Posted July 2, 2012 You need to see the new solution on Alfresco - talk about "proper job"! Rob Ya you could pull up the wreck as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LilBrit Posted July 3, 2012 Report Share Posted July 3, 2012 On my lewmar I have to use a special spanner for free running,didn't think I'd like the winch but getting use to it and its not to slow even when retrieving in 200ft of water Do you rely on the winch to hold you at anchor then or do you tie off at the front to take the strain off it? I have a star shaped spanner thingy with mine which fits into the outside of the revolving drum or is that the wrong one? Looked at Lewmar adverts and some seem to have a free spool sort of device fitted while others don't. http://www.lewmar.com/assets/img/dataset/M...e%203%20WEB.pdf Mine doesn't have the release button on the face of the gypsy cover, wonder if that part is interchangeable? Apologies to the OP for wandering off topic slightly. Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncan Posted July 3, 2012 Report Share Posted July 3, 2012 On my lewmar I have to use a special spanner for free running,didn't think I'd like the winch but getting use to it and its not to slow even when retrieving in 200ft of water I have a star shaped spanner thingy with mine which fits into the outside of the revolving drum or is that the wrong one? Paul Paul Yes, that is the spanner to operate the clutch mechanism.... Personally I don't like that method on those winches with a mixed rode (rope and chain) because there is a risk that the rope may catch on the splitter whilst running out under load (which causes a problem then and will probably require taking it all apart to repair/replace the splitter.... Use with care. As to the issue of whether to snub the anchor rode or leave on the winch - again when using a mixed rode in deeper water your only real option is to tie the rode off to a bow cleat (in the absence of an anchor post) and this brings a lot of other hazards into play IMO. If I was leaving the boat at anchor then I would transfer the rode to a cleat. Different if anchoring is shallow water to all chain, in which case I snub it with a chain link spliced to 1m 10mm nylon and an eye for the cleat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LilBrit Posted July 3, 2012 Report Share Posted July 3, 2012 On my lewmar I have to use a special spanner for free running,didn't think I'd like the winch but getting use to it and its not to slow even when retrieving in 200ft of water I have a star shaped spanner thingy with mine which fits into the outside of the revolving drum or is that the wrong one? Paul Paul Yes, that is the spanner to operate the clutch mechanism.... Personally I don't like that method on those winches with a mixed rode (rope and chain) because there is a risk that the rope may catch on the splitter whilst running out under load (which causes a problem then and will probably require taking it all apart to repair/replace the splitter.... Use with care. As to the issue of whether to snub the anchor rode or leave on the winch - again when using a mixed rode in deeper water your only real option is to tie the rode off to a bow cleat (in the absence of an anchor post) and this brings a lot of other hazards into play IMO. If I was leaving the boat at anchor then I would transfer the rode to a cleat. Different if anchoring is shallow water to all chain, in which case I snub it with a chain link spliced to 1m 10mm nylon and an eye for the cleat. Not sure I was very clear about the spanner and where it fits; it isn't the one that goes on the outside diameter it is the one that fits into the face so not quite sure if that is the right one? I thought the one I am looking at is for freeing off the winch manually if it gets jammed? Thanks for the input and once again apologies to OP for wandering off. Maybe start as a new topic if it is getting annoying? Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niggle Posted July 3, 2012 Report Share Posted July 3, 2012 Paul i leave mine on the winch to hold me at anchor while fishing and lower anchor with winch as well but in a strong current the free wheel would be the way or gloves and unhitch it from the winch Nige Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyb. Posted July 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2012 I went for the piece of plywood as a tempory measure.I might have to give it a coat of paint.but it is detachable and will do the job for the time being.Im going to try and get some photos up.now where did I put that Photobucket. OMG I think Ive done it Thanks Lofty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
great white Posted July 3, 2012 Report Share Posted July 3, 2012 Next time I go on the boat I will take a picture of what I had made up. basically a fitting that goes on the side to run out the warp and chain , it has a lower and two side rollers and extends out to the line of the fender. when I use the front windlass i power out the chain then when on to the rope I either loosen the clutch with the winch handle[spanner] to lower it all faster, or just feed the rope around the bollard and take it out of the gypsy. I tie off to the bollard to take the strain. Charlie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LilBrit Posted July 3, 2012 Report Share Posted July 3, 2012 I went for the piece of plywood as a tempory measure.I might have to give it a coat of paint.but it is detachable and will do the job for the time being.Im going to try and get some photos up.now where did I put that Photobucket. OMG I think Ive done it Thanks Lofty. Looks good but I'd make sure those countersunk screw heads are flush or you may snag the rode. How about giving it a coat of resin and a bit of fibreglass matting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted July 3, 2012 Report Share Posted July 3, 2012 I would make it from plastic chopping board and not wood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niggle Posted July 3, 2012 Report Share Posted July 3, 2012 That's one very clean and shiney boat Johnny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted July 3, 2012 Report Share Posted July 3, 2012 That's one very clean and shiney boat Johnny Some one needs to get out more!! That would be me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyb. Posted July 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2012 That's one very clean and shiney boat Johnny Thats the gloss you get from that teflon polish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyb. Posted July 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2012 I would make it from plastic chopping board and not wood. Im sure I can get Rid of those screws as well maybe areldite or the like . maybe a strip of wood either side to help keep it on the platform. I think them chopping boards are just a large peice of ptfe . version 2 with added updates is already in the planning stages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LilBrit Posted July 3, 2012 Report Share Posted July 3, 2012 I would make it from plastic chopping board and not wood. Im sure I can get Rid of those screws as well maybe areldite or the like . maybe a strip of wood either side to help keep it on the platform. I think them chopping boards are just a large peice of ptfe . version 2 with added updates is already in the planning stages. Most of the chopping boards will be polyethylene or polypropylene I'd guess? I'm going to use a piece of the latter for my boat cutting board. You'll do well to glue any of that family of plastics so fasteners of some sort will be better. Self tapping screws maybe? You could get yourself a bit of 12mm thick for not too much cash from your local plastics stockist.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyb. Posted July 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 Well we finally got a break in the weatherand Ive finished the prototype.No more screws sticking up,and a couple of battons to stop side slip.Ive even got a name for it (SARB) sacrificial anchor retrieval board.I just propped it up for a photo and realised with version 2 made out of polypropylene it could double as a nice bait board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
great white Posted July 17, 2012 Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 Nice one, with a slightly shorter support to make the board level , you get a good dual purpose attachement. As promised here is the latest addition to Alfresco, I added the pivoting bar over the top to stop the rope jumping out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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