Bream on Posted November 19, 2012 Report Share Posted November 19, 2012 What a great day to be out in the sunshine and flat seas for a change on board Alfresco as the resident Head cook and bottle washer!! Apologies for the lateness in the post as I always leave it to the Skipper ! Cod were scarce to say the least, except for the lucky chap that decided to have my cuttle and squid Bourdain.(sausage) not so secretly hidden with a 10/0 pennel rig, Popping the scales at 9lb 10oz.No monster but a nice eating size. Great day to be out on Alfresco with the usual banter making it all worth while ! Cheers Charlie.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted November 19, 2012 Report Share Posted November 19, 2012 Well done Will, top dangling!!! Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niggle Posted November 20, 2012 Report Share Posted November 20, 2012 Well done Will,showed us all how to do it Nige Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Fox Posted November 20, 2012 Report Share Posted November 20, 2012 Well done Will! It was hard to find target species out there! Just to add to Neal's bit about "the one that got away...twice", it hit my slowly-lowered pair of 6/0s to 100lb mono with mackerel and squid bait and instantly took line. Comments of bass and pollack were dropped after long powerful runs, with the Avet SX on maximum drag. Twice it slowed and hung in tide, taking line slowly, and twice it ran back hard towards me, making me wonder if it was a massive tope. I managed to catch up with it twice, and when I did it kicked off in a different direction. The third run was the fastest and most powerful, and even with an estimated 20lb of drag it gave the impression of not feeling it at all. I guess it took 100m on the 3rd run, and this time came quickly back towards me without "hanging". This time I didn't catch up with it, and when I caught up with my tackle it had shaken the hook. The trace had a slight roughness, but not as if it had been heavily sand-papered, so no clue there. Shame I didn't get to see it. Dave's hook-up on the last retrieve was also mid-water. He only experienced the one run, taking 300m of new 50lb braid (plus some backing) in an estimated 2 minutes, but it was downtide. Even with his gear, he couldn't slow it, turn it, or stop it. Definitely the same characteristics of huge size and power. At the time, the line seemed to be "zizzing" off his reel at enormous speed, but 300m in 2 minutes is 150m/min = 9km/hour = about 6 mph. Unstoppable definitely, but not as fast as a tuna or marlin would have moved - and nothing jumped. Even if it was a 1 minute run, a 12mph speed suggests shark rather than tuna - though it crossed my mind at the time. His line parted (or was bitten) below the swivel, giving no clues. Thanks for a great day out Neal, with a PB Blonde of 18lb 6oz (returned), a bass of 3lb 6oz and whiting of 1.5lb or so, and a bonus edible crab that's now picked and ready for lunch! Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 20, 2012 Report Share Posted November 20, 2012 Wow that sounds like exciting stuff Mike! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wedger Posted November 20, 2012 Report Share Posted November 20, 2012 (edited) Mike, From speaking to a few in the know and not much from personal experience. Your run sounds more like a thresher, with the multi directional movements or a porbeagle that has no idea you're there. Dave's sounds much more porbeagle than anything else with a long sustained run albeit a bit sedate. Seen this, but faster, a few times. Twice, when we saw the fish before it headed for Rio without stopping. Edited November 20, 2012 by Wedger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnasher Posted November 20, 2012 Report Share Posted November 20, 2012 Sounds like a dogfish! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diverdave Posted November 20, 2012 Report Share Posted November 20, 2012 Well done Will! It was hard to find target species out there! Just to add to Neal's bit about "the one that got away...twice", it hit my slowly-lowered pair of 6/0s to 100lb mono with mackerel and squid bait and instantly took line. Comments of bass and pollack were dropped after long powerful runs, with the Avet SX on maximum drag. Twice it slowed and hung in tide, taking line slowly, and twice it ran back hard towards me, making me wonder if it was a massive tope. I managed to catch up with it twice, and when I did it kicked off in a different direction. The third run was the fastest and most powerful, and even with an estimated 20lb of drag it gave the impression of not feeling it at all. I guess it took 100m on the 3rd run, and this time came quickly back towards me without "hanging". This time I didn't catch up with it, and when I caught up with my tackle it had shaken the hook. The trace had a slight roughness, but not as if it had been heavily sand-papered, so no clue there. Shame I didn't get to see it. Dave's hook-up on the last retrieve was also mid-water. He only experienced the one run, taking 300m of new 50lb braid (plus some backing) in an estimated 2 minutes, but it was downtide. Even with his gear, he couldn't slow it, turn it, or stop it. Definitely the same characteristics of huge size and power. At the time, the line seemed to be "zizzing" off his reel at enormous speed, but 300m in 2 minutes is 150m/min = 9km/hour = about 6 mph. Unstoppable definitely, but not as fast as a tuna or marlin would have moved - and nothing jumped. Even if it was a 1 minute run, a 12mph speed suggests shark rather than tuna - though it crossed my mind at the time. His line parted (or was bitten) below the swivel, giving no clues. Thanks for a great day out Neal, with a PB Blonde of 18lb 6oz (returned), a bass of 3lb 6oz and whiting of 1.5lb or so, and a bonus edible crab that's now picked and ready for lunch! Mike A similar story from Nick on Aquajak, copied from Beach and Boat. 12/11/12 "My usual crew of Cam and Charlie fished what turned out to be a beautiful day on Sunday.... the buggers hounded me in to getting a ticket for the car park so being out numbered... .. I put the hook in surrounded by a count of 78 boats. But the question what this thread is all about is this.... Over the years, around this part of the season, on 2 occasions when Cod fishing a bite has turned into a run that cant be stopped... It happened yesterday on our first mark, north side of the Dolphin Bank and before off the banks at Old Harry, fishing aboard Stu May's Reel Action On heavy enough gear to stop most things these runs strip a spool in a couple of minutes. Both times the fish were lost..first one to a weak point in braid and the second to the trace bitten through. As I said its happened to me twice and Ive heard of another angler with the same story. So.....what are they, big Tope , Shark.?...has anybody landed one...? that's 2 questions..i know...... " Nick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted November 20, 2012 Report Share Posted November 20, 2012 Duh Nuh Duh Nuh Duh Nuh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisE Posted November 20, 2012 Report Share Posted November 20, 2012 Gonna need a bigger boat .... I've seen a thresher whilst sailing a couple of miles south of the Needles a few years ago. It surfaced 50m from the boat wagged its tail then resurfaced about 25m from the side. Makes the old blood run a bit quicker.... Seriously, it's great to hear these tales but going out to catch them might make cod fishing look positively action packed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
great white Posted November 20, 2012 Report Share Posted November 20, 2012 Interesting this, thinking back a couple of seasons when the cod were thick on the starfish grounds we had a few shark incidents out there Perhaps we should be using cod as shark bait. Trouble is you have to find some cod first. Perhaps thats why there are so few about, a few big fish are eating them all. Charlie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted November 20, 2012 Report Share Posted November 20, 2012 As long as the sharks aren't gluten free, you could try a fish finger as bait! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mal Thomas Posted November 20, 2012 Report Share Posted November 20, 2012 There was a pod of porposes in the car park sunday perhaps they were to blame for the lack of bites and the odd hook ups. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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