islander99 Posted May 17, 2007 Report Share Posted May 17, 2007 Hi everyone, Can anyone offer advice on brake drum removal. Brakes are siezed on and I want to free them. Does the drum come of on its own or is it one piece with hub? Also what about the hub savers do they come of first or not. Any help greatly appreciated. I will ring Indespension when I get chance but I thought one of you might know. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazza Posted May 17, 2007 Report Share Posted May 17, 2007 Mike, At the back of the drum (top) there is a nut that adjusts your brake shoes, if you slacken this right off then gentley rock the trailer back and forth this might free them. If you don`t feel confident servicing your brakes get the experts to do it. Get a quote from a normal mechanic as well as Indespention Gary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazza Posted May 17, 2007 Report Share Posted May 17, 2007 Mike, P.S Also i would come and have a look but with a name like Islander99 i take it your not local to the Poole area? Gary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coddy Posted May 18, 2007 Report Share Posted May 18, 2007 (edited) Hi Mike I have the same set up as you and have experiance the same problems. 1/ Remove the road wheel 2/ Do as Gary suggests and undo the manual brake adjustment nut 3/ Get a large hammer and fairly gently tap (hit) the drum going all around the drum edge, the brakes will normally free off after a while unless the linnings have come away from the shoes. Not that un-common! 4/ If all else fails, gently tap from side to side the bearing savers to ease them off the hub. Do not remove the spring etc inside the saver. 5/ Remove the split pin and undo the castlated nut 6/ Return with the hammer and try to tap off the drum. It will eventually come off with enough effort. I suspect you drive your trailer into the water over the brake drum level, this has a corrosive action on all brake parts. Suggest you fit a flushing kit or ensure that when you finish using the boat you wash out the drums with fresh water every time. Try not to get the brakes wet when launching, Warriors will float in very little water. If you overhaul the brakes, normally needed every 6 months, don't forget to give the cables a good greasing as they corroide up inside the sheathing. A good soak in desiel helps to free them and keep them free before pouring oil down the cables. Tips Never leave the brake on as the shoes will always stick on. When backing the boat back into position after use, always pull forward at the end to take the shoes off the anti-reverse position. Never dunk the trailer into water if the hubs/drums are hot as the cold water shrinks the hubs and draws water into the bearings. Allow to cool normally. Hope the above helps, as you may tell I have worked a fair bit on my brakes before! Coddy Edited May 18, 2007 by Coddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islander99 Posted May 18, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2007 Gazza and Coddy, Thanks very much for taking the trouble to answer my post, as usual this forum has a wealth of nowledge to share I think it's brilliant! I am au fait with renewing brake shoes and adjusting etc. but because drum is locked so solidly was not sure whether drum was separate from hub or not. Gazza thanks for the offer and you are right, I am on the Isle of Wight. Thanks again mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plaicemat Posted May 18, 2007 Report Share Posted May 18, 2007 I've just had virtually a trailer re-build to get brakes. Can one get a flush kit for the Warrior Hallmark trailers? Terry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coddy Posted May 18, 2007 Report Share Posted May 18, 2007 Terry If you want to buy a ready to fit kit see here http://www.hubflush.com/index.html or you could make your own with hozlok fittings and pipes to each wheel backplate. Coddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islander99 Posted May 22, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 22, 2007 Hi all Just a quick mention for Indespension of southampton ,after investigation my problem was the inner cable at the front end where passes through the chassis member and into the outer. It was just solid, after soaking it in deisel and giving it a good thrashing I gave up and ordered a new one. I ordered it at about 11 am monday and recieved it at 9.30 am Tuesday, thats what I call good service. As a matter of interest there are two different axels fitted to a rollercoaster 3 one called an Alco and one called a knot, I had the knot, but if it had been an alco there is an option for stainless brake cables, worth thinking about if you have one of the latter. Thanks again for the help. mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islander99 Posted May 22, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 22, 2007 Me again, forgot to mention that I chose to have delivered it by parcel post not courier, a quarter of the price and about six hours quicker. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plaicemat Posted May 23, 2007 Report Share Posted May 23, 2007 Another option, Mike, which I and many others have opted for is a rod fitting. The cable is changed for an adjustable, threaded and galvanised rod which does away with the internal corrosion problem with cables. And thanks Dave for the flush kit link, I've only just caught up with it. I think I feel a modification coming on. Terry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islander99 Posted May 23, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2007 Terry Sounds like a very good idea. Who sells the rod kit is it Indespension or an independant supplier. Many Thanks Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coddy Posted May 23, 2007 Report Share Posted May 23, 2007 The best way is not to get the brakes wet in the first place! Unless you use Baiter, there is no need to get water into the drums when launching a 165. I back in so the water is just under the drums and the boat goes on and off easily. Save loads of problems and maintenance. Coddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry S Posted May 24, 2007 Report Share Posted May 24, 2007 Coddy, I am getting braver by the launch at not reversing my trailer and 165 too far into the water but still manage to submerge the whole brake drum. Is there a rule of thumb or a way of working out if the slope is steep enough to not wet the brakes but also avoid grounding the back of the boat on launch? Trial and error could be expensive and embarrassing! Regards, Harry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coddy Posted May 24, 2007 Report Share Posted May 24, 2007 Hi Harry It depends where you launch, Baiter you have no option but bury the trailer in the water, Cobbs, Rockley, Wick, Weymouth public slip, you only need to just get the wheels wet. Not sure about Mudeford but I think thats a shallow slip as well. If unsure have a quick wade in your waders to check for depth but most decent slipways will be ok unless it is low spring tides. I have fitted a stainless steel transom guard to the back of my boat to take away the worry of dings, see here for pictures and prices http://www.craysidemarine.co.uk/ click on menu on the top of the page to "stainless" and it should bring it up ok. They get them made for each specific boat. I used a couple of small s/s screws and sikafelx to attach mine and it hasn't shiffted yet. Coddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plaicemat Posted May 24, 2007 Report Share Posted May 24, 2007 Harry, the rod job is fairly straitforward and I feel sure you could do it yourself. If you want to come and have a look at mine and take measurements, I'm not a million miles away. Terry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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