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I believe that using seals as bait is not allowed. Even in areas with Great Whites and abundant seals. But I may be wrong.

Quote: "And sharks eat seals too.....now there's a thought for the shark hunters in the club" Catch & release. Catch outside. Release in the harbour. I don't think the Grockles will be impressed though. 😃

And sharks eat seals too.....now there's a thought for the shark hunters in the club !!!😇😇😇

I think I have an answer, how about using cormorants for pot bait? Win/win? Terry.

Apparently the bait draggers have been struggling to get rag worms in Holes Bay. Either they have been over dredged or the amount of rain water in flow into the harbour has made the rag worms go deeper into the mud. Either way, if there is little food there will be equally fewer fish present! This may just be a bad year due to the amount of rain we have had. If one thing is for sure, Mother Nature will sort it out 👍

I think you have summed that up, one thing to add is pollution and I think it is a big one.

Mick, since you’ve retired you have too much time on your hands and have put a bit of logic together and made some sense there. Careful you maybe asked to oversee a flounder re establishment programme for the harbour. 👍👏

I think this problem started with the netting of flounders for pot bait a few years ago. Then the addition of seals in there ( bass nursery area ???) and the explosion of cormorants / shags is doing the fish stocks catastrophic damage which may never come back with all this predation......but what do I know , the " EXPERTS " seem to think there's no problem !!!

I wonder, if cormorants are part of the problem, whether it may be worth trying deeper spots in the harbour such as along the side of the main channel where we used to go for plaice and flounders. I haven't noticed that many of the black buggers up there. Terry.

Tracking Black Bream, Sharks & Rays Event Thursday 23rd January 2025 6pm – 8pm Lymington & District Sea Fishing Club (Bath Road, Hampshire, Lymington, SO41 9SE) For more information, please contact fishtracking@plymouth.ac.uk A free event to hear project updates and learn what to do if you catch a tagged fish. 216 black bream and 113 tope, smoothhound, undulate rays and thornback rays have been tagged over the past year, join the event to find out where they have travelled. Angling for Sustainability & Pollack FISP Final Conference Wednesday 12th February 2025 University of Plymouth & Online For more information and to book tickets please use this link - Angling for Sustainability and Pollack FISP Conference Tickets, Wed, Feb 12, 2025 at 10:00 AM | Eventbrite An engaging public event that will showcase the exciting results of two innovative Fisheries Industry Science Partnership (FISP) projects: Angling for Sustainability and Pollack FISP. These projects have been working with fishers to collect vital data on black bream, elasmobranchs and pollack, to inform evidence-based fisheries management. The conference will consist of presentations from project researchers, partner and guest speakers. Just seen this survey from the MMO on Black Bream and Wrasse on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/MarineManagementOrganisation Non Facebook link to survey is here:- https://defragroup.eu.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_bOONlv00PEREjdA?fbclid=IwY2xjawHOcGxleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHVv6u7-d3qs2NaegddQ41ZDGZ1NVLFiNCVTmW2N95zUTOjR295n-4vojRQ_aem_RwonFBso9WpedCcRphumkQ Please find afew minutes to fill it in. Allan.

Just seen this survey from the MMO on Black Bream and Wrasse on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/MarineManagementOrganisation Non Facebook link to survey is here:- https://defragroup.eu.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_bOONlv00PEREjdA?fbclid=IwY2xjawHOcGxleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHVv6u7-d3qs2NaegddQ41ZDGZ1NVLFiNCVTmW2N95zUTOjR295n-4vojRQ_aem_RwonFBso9WpedCcRphumkQ Please find afew minutes to fill it in. Allan.

Hi Went today in Holes Bay not a touch

Hi, do you mean the width of the catch report for has something happened to the Species Hunt leaderboard please? Thanks

I have a dubious friend in Norfolk who used to do something different for his beaters on beaters day, a few years back of course he did seal for the beaters on beaters day, it was disgusting and burnt for nearly a week on the bbq wrecking it because of the blubber!!!!!! seagull and cormmorant have also featured and were also revolting, only a vague casual friend you understand!!!

Chicken? Terry.

And what do harbour seals taste like anyway? 🤔😁

NEW COMP? In the words of Jasper carott, you can borrow my shotgun for a fiver! 😂

Are they Cormorants or Shags. We were discussing the difference. Can't repeat THAT on here. 🤪

Just looking at the mobile version and this insert throws it out a bit Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Terry, that's a pretty good call, it does mean of course that as the instigator you would have to join us fishing!! Hope your doing ok and look forward to seeing you in the spring.

Or maybe a cormorant culling session??

Dave's Seal. No fish around here mate!

Will crabs be included? I can catch them devils. 😃

Is it, perhaps, time to admit defeat and have a Christmas harbour species comp? Obviously, if a flounder was caught it would count double. Terry.

See above, none caught 😭