Jamie W Posted October 5, 2011 Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 After getting more tips, i feel its time to put a bit of money into it.. Still peanuts compared to others... But ive seen a, For downtide.. Abu 7000i CS Pro Rocket Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Nash Posted October 5, 2011 Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 I use a couple of abu 7000 reels and i like them. I have a multitude of rods ranging from Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coddy Posted October 5, 2011 Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 Hi Jamie I would suggest that the Abu 7000i CS Pro Rocket is really suited to the beach and casting comps. I would suggest a Shamarno TLD15 reel, this does not have a level wind if that is important to you. I personally prefer Penn reels as so far they have never let me down and spares are normally available. Rods are again a personal choice, but I would suggest a 12-20lb class downtide rod approx 7ft long. Shorter rods tend to get called "stand up" rods. I would add a heavery class rod of about 30-50lb again of similar length for deep water fishing with heavy leads. I have just got a 6lb rod and find it great fun to catch fish on, you feel everything but of course you can't use it with heavy weights. Good for bream and I suspect Bass if I every got near one! I also like uptiding which is a longer rod of about 9ft 6" to 10ft If you like spinning/lures then you will need another rod! It then is a case of match heavy medium or light reels to the rods and also the beaking strain of line on the spool. Seems like you will have a good list ready for Xmas! Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted October 5, 2011 Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 I would wait on getting a 30/50 - not sure many people use them anymore! 20/30 is prob the biggest most go to - ask Alfresco, they are the conger chasers! Abu 7000i woudl do you - a rocket is ott for the boat. Again, as you have been advised before, spend some time on others boats and try before you buy! A cheap rod these days is batter than what was a good rod 15 years ago. There are some really really good cheap gear, ok fittings might not be rolls royce, but washed down they will last a good few years. hth, Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie W Posted October 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 Cheers as always for the replys... Ive been researching all day, really. cant belive how much is involved in getting the correct gear... A standerd 7000i seems the way to go, as level wind is what im used to.. Plus the line out alarm sounds usefull... Anyone know the best price, ebay is roughly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul D Posted October 5, 2011 Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 Cant belive that i need a different rod for everything :-( but understand thats the way it is... It is I was only the other day explaining to Helen ( my wife ) that this is the case Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney Posted October 5, 2011 Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 I love my ABU Suveran EVO 20lb paired with a 7000i great for most things in the bay and upto a 1 lb of lead. had a 35lb conger on it first time out and had it bent double. Although the are a bit pricey now they have put the price up again. Not that i havent got a few others to choice from for all the different needs, Rods are a personal choice and everyone will have their favourites. But its a good excuse to buy a new one when someone shows you their favourite. one can never have too many toys. Mick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Nash Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 Cant belive that i need a different rod for everything :-( but understand thats the way it is... @rob Will try and get on a boat to see them, but wouldnt know right from wrong lol.. I thought when i paid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomBettle Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 Choice of tackle is very personal. Some like to fish with heavy gear in the belief that if they hook the fish of a lifetime they won't lose it, others have a specific preference for brand. I am a little bit of a tackle tart and like to fish lightish too. For me I loathe the modern Abu 7000 range. I personally am of the opinion that they are about as much use as a chocolate fire guard. Others love them... If I had to have one single medium priced reel and use it for everything it would probably be from the Avet range. I find the SX a little small for everything so maybe the next one up. My own reels are from the Penn TRQ range and I use the 100 for almost everything I do only stepping up to the 200 for BIG Conger, shark and other fish that could possibly break the 100lb barrier. The only other time the 200 comes out is if the 100 is on my main rod and I need to grab a second quickly after snagging up etc. I match my TRQ's with Penn Waveblaster travel rods in 6/12, 12/20 and 20/30 flavours. Alternatively, my preferred rod is an Alba 6lb class which I use for most of my wreck drifting for Cod, Pollack, Bass etc. The 6/12 has taken tonnes of really good fish including Conger into the 40s and Tope to in excess of 50lb It handles these fish with no problems assuming you don't panic! The 20/30 only ever comes out if I need to use more than 1.25lb of lead and it has handled many very big eels (current club record while fishing with Alfresco and many bigger fish still over at Portland). The above 20/30 would also be used against Porbeagle with the 12/20 being my preferred Blue Shark rod. I personally would only ever go heavier when I am talking seriously difficult fish to shift such as Common Skate or mammoth pelagics like BIG Tuna or Marlin. For Yellowfin Tuna I use an Alba IGFA rated 30lb class rod - IGFA ratings are much stiffer than UK ratings with a 30 being more like a UK 50/80. For Marlin I have a Penn UK80lb class rod (IGFA 30/50) which has taken fish to an estimated 750lb. These brags are actually pointing out that big fish come relatively easily on improbable gear if the whole lot is well balanced. The right rod, matched to the right reel with the right line and right drag settings. It's not rocket science just about balanced tackle. If you can't stretch to an Avet then look at a Penn 535. It is perfect size for uptiding, will handle shark and Conger, but will also provide sport against smaller fish like Pollack and Cod. It will sit fine on the rods you currently have, but will also sit on a nice shiny new 12lb class which will handle all your inshore and wreck drifting species whilst keeping a smile on your face. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 I am a little bit of a tackle tart An understatement from Tom!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomBettle Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 I am a little bit of a tackle tart An understatement from Tom!!! Hey, I'll have you know that all my kit is getting a little old now. Blimey, had it since 2007 it's positively vintage! I have a mate launching a new tackle shop and in time his own brand of gear so will have to hang on until his rods and reels are launched as they will be top line stuff. Keep an eye out for FishXL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 Keep an eye out for FishXL. I am - we only postponed the Open twice so he could send us a prize!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomBettle Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 Keep an eye out for FishXL. I am - we only postponed the Open twice so he could send us a prize!!! Ooops has it still not come? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newboy Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 If I only had Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncan Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 whilst Tom's principles are sound (when it comes to tackle!) I question the concept of 2007 gear being old - I haven't used most of mine since then..... I think either the TLD or Penn 535/25GLS have proved themselves over and over again as good fishing machines, and able to handle the knocks and abuse associatd with small boat angling. I have a 25GLS that has fished most bottom fishing sessions I have been on, and has never failed. I did get a 975LD and absolutely love it - buying new today it would be the Avet or TQR that Tom's outlined. I have loads (and loads) of rods - I tend to use 3 or 4 over and over again for the reasons many have highlighted; what works for you. Line class ratings are hugely missleading (IMO) but are the only thing we can really use to discuss such things. Given that few people have large enought boats to carry all their rods for every trip (and as I never leave tackle onboard there are even more logistics!) the best solutions are the ones that can handle a range of situations competently. Next best are the comfortable ones - last off are the specialist no compromise items. An example of the latter is the Uglystick 1481/15 (I think!) which is simply the best pollack wrecking rod ever produced - but weighs a ton in use! Whatever you get - make sure you use it a lot... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomBettle Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 (edited) whilst Tom's principles are sound (when it comes to tackle!) I question the concept of 2007 gear being old the Uglystick 1481/15 (I think!) which is simply the best pollack wrecking rod ever produced - but weighs a ton in use! He he he! That was more to do with my comments about being a tackle tart and then being jabbed by Rob. And as none of it has ever been cleaned, let alone serviced they are starting to show signs of needing shiny new replacements. As for the Ugly Stik. That actual model was my first ever boat rod. Given as an extra special birthday gift by my fishing uncle who got me started on this mad hobby. I have to agree that it was an amazing rod, just weighed more than a modern 50/80 nowadays. I am not quite sure it was the best rod "ever", my Alba 6lb class kicks it's butt in all aspects and weighs a few oucnes by comparison, but it was an incredible piece of late 70s / early 80s rod building engineering. Edited October 6, 2011 by TomBettle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
great white Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 Try to ignore the tackle tarts [Does that include me as I now have an Avex SX, matching set of braid rods and shimano tld reels ] I have used abu 7000 reels for over 30 years, sure the new ones will not last like the old ones but they are not that expensive [compared to avets and other posh ones] I get mine from Mark at Alderney Angling They suit all my uptiding and drift fishing needs, all are loaded with 30lb whiplash braid [again best bought from Alderney Angling] we use TLD 15's downtiding, usually on 20/30 or 30/50 rods, but the new very soft action braid rods [Diawa Kensaki] Better to use quality reels and save a bit on rods, cheaper ones are not always weaker but they will be stiffer and heavier in weight for their class. My best advice try not to overspend until you have had a few trips out to try a few things, keep an eye on the boat buddies section as most of us post when we have space for crew. We quite enjoy having new Members onboard. Charlie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncan Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 whilst Tom's principles are sound (when it comes to tackle!) I question the concept of 2007 gear being old the Uglystick 1481/15 (I think!) which is simply the best pollack wrecking rod ever produced - but weighs a ton in use! I am not quite sure it was the best rod "ever", my Alba 6lb class kicks it's butt in all aspects and weighs a few oucnes by comparison, but it was an incredible piece of late 70s / early 80s rod building engineering. I feel a fish off coming on - I did say 'is' as I still have mine! I find it hard to believe that your Alba has the 12ft of tip transition provided by the Ugly when a pollack dives - but then again it might have alternative technology! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie W Posted October 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 (edited) Again, im overwhelmed with all the help lads.. Thanks so much.. Ive been offerd x 2 abu 7000 green.. Off a fellow member.. And bought them. As they seem simple for uptiding and down.. Plus levelwind etc.. So i can downtide and uptide at the same time... Now time to look at the rods reccomended... Only wanna spend around Edited October 6, 2011 by Jw2000uk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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