Newboy Posted November 16, 2004 Report Posted November 16, 2004 I want to try up tiding for cod. So for the needle area, which is better, ledger style or patonaster style?! How long should the trace be? Quote
Bob F Posted November 16, 2004 Report Posted November 16, 2004 I'd go with a running ledger with grip lead and minimum of 80lb trace, 3-4ft long. BF Quote
Swainiac Posted November 17, 2004 Report Posted November 17, 2004 Why choose uptiding Kam? The trace length depends entirely on weight of bait...strength of tide, and bottom make up. Needles area, I have heard of and caught, far more cod downtiding, than uptiding. Interesting to hear other views on this. Rich Quote
Newboy Posted November 17, 2004 Author Report Posted November 17, 2004 Never done any uptiding, so I thought I'd give it a go. Also, a bit more room if one of the rod is not down tide. Quote
great white Posted November 17, 2004 Report Posted November 17, 2004 Uptiding is one of my favorite methods It does at times outfish downtiders, especially in shallow areas with a reasonable run of tide. It does allow baits to be spread out and not all fished behind the boat, but please take great care when casting from a packed Charter Boat or a rocking smaller boat. Our areas are generally a bit deep for uptiding but I still use the method a lot, generally always with a 8oz Gemini style weight and a 4 to 10oz uptider and ABU 7000 with 20lb line any lighter gear will struggle 1. to get the bait to the bottom and keep it there 2. To play a decent fish with the tide assisting it Its main advantages are: 1. Spreading out the baits 2. Getting away from the boats scare zone in shallow water 3. Being able to fish with lighter gear and weights 4. Self hooking of larger fish as they move off with the bait. It takes a bit of practice but can be worth the effort IMHO Charlie Quote
Afishionado Posted November 17, 2004 Report Posted November 17, 2004 I tried uptiding once and it was very successfull. I couldn't do it again because the tide was running the other way the next time I went to that spot Mad Mike Quote
great white Posted November 17, 2004 Report Posted November 17, 2004 As usual Mike your post had to be read a couple of times to be sure who was pulling what Nice one Charlie Quote
Adam F Posted November 17, 2004 Report Posted November 17, 2004 It is a method I really enjoy, but dont use much in the bay... Our annual trip to the Solent after Smoothies always proves the method - it outfishes downtiders almost everytime - however the washing line across the tide can effect the weed. James seems to pratise uptiding alot, or at least I think he does - he is often seem to be pendulum casting a 2lb lead, 8 squid and half a mackeral mounted on pennel 8/0's 40 yards uptide when fishing the ledge....I know as Ive been inches away from his end tackle on more than one occasion! - Charlie is right, take GREAT care uptiding in small boats. Quote
duncan Posted November 17, 2004 Report Posted November 17, 2004 I liked the way he was equally happy to chuck it 40 yds down tide/accross/whatever - it worked though............. Quote
boybilly Posted November 17, 2004 Report Posted November 17, 2004 Inches away from his end tackle. HHHUUUMMMM Quote
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