jack Posted May 23, 2005 Report Share Posted May 23, 2005 Andy and I had decided to play in Poole harbour but popped outside for a look.It was blowing well but beareable in the Arvor,so we trickled on down to Bournemouth rocks. The waves were not large,no more than a couple of foot ,but close together and confused/lumpy. no-one else fishing although the yauchties were loving it !.We drifted for an hour or so in that area,another larger boat charged on through and out to the patch,we were thinking of joining him [safety in numbers ] but he packed it in after about 20 mins and came back in,he hung about near durley rock,then quit and went in altogether.We carried on with good baits, [the poor chap in the tackle shop had tons that he was stuck with ,due to the cancellations] but not a bite,do's the rough shallow water scatter the fish,I wonder?Because it was too rough to brew up we quit and moved in to the front of Brownsea Castle,on the way in ,had to run the gauntlet of what seemed like dozens of Kite boarders.we could not avoid them or go round because the hook sands were a sea of foam,and under 10' deep in the channel,we had to plod steadily and rely on them avoiding us,as they were flying in every direction,are they the new poole menace ? now that the scooters have thinned out a little ? Once in made tea and did lots of the most erratic and confused drifts with tide fighting wind. Just as we decided to call it a day ,I wound up ,and a really nice {and obliging Pollack} took my worm and squid bait.So at least it was'nt a total blank. Also spoke to Tresillian at the quayside on the way in,I had seen him earlier but did'nt realise who it was.Once again a nice day out,and better than watching Tele'......jack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newboy Posted May 23, 2005 Report Share Posted May 23, 2005 Well done Jack, you're braver than a lot of us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncan Posted May 23, 2005 Report Share Posted May 23, 2005 Glad you got out Jack, sounds like the call off was the right thing for everyone! Rough seas do seem to break up schoal fish like mackeral, sprats etc, and the very coloured water also has an effect - in the case of inshore conger a positive one as they seem to be happier to feed in the gloom. Kite surfers in that channel could be a nightmare! Recent discussions in the US seem to be taking the view that they are craft as defined by the COLREGS but I can see a local byelaw banning them from that channel happening pretty quick if there are incidents (and there will be I am afraid). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afishionado Posted May 23, 2005 Report Share Posted May 23, 2005 Jack ventures forth ......."but close together and confused/lumpy". If you wanna be posh Jack, they are called 'Klapotic' waves. Also worth noting........dozens of Kite boarders.we could not avoid them or go round because the hook sands. 'A larger craft in a restricted channel does have the right of way' Jack. So steam on and damn the torpedoes Mad Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Posted May 23, 2005 Report Share Posted May 23, 2005 the kiteborders are good for getting rid of that unwanted left over squid thats been on your boat for months. sam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnasher Posted May 23, 2005 Report Share Posted May 23, 2005 Nice one Jack. I would of bottled it today. I was at Milford shingle bank at 9.30am this morning watching the waves crash over the 'bridge'. An umbeleavable sight and this is from a couple of miles away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul J Posted May 23, 2005 Report Share Posted May 23, 2005 I went down the river in the morning and blanked was done by 11am Paul J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manic Moore Posted May 23, 2005 Report Share Posted May 23, 2005 I thought this was a 'Klapotic' wave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncan Posted May 23, 2005 Report Share Posted May 23, 2005 'A larger craft in a restricted channel does have the right of way' a rather dangerous and misleading comment I feel. but lets not get into a detailed discussion regarding the COLREGS ........... If you can get by without actually steaming into them (or endangering your, or any other, craft of course) it's for the best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueboatdriver Posted May 23, 2005 Report Share Posted May 23, 2005 A good rule of thumb: MIGHT IS RIGHT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newboy Posted May 23, 2005 Report Share Posted May 23, 2005 I would agree with 'Size matters!' It's acknowledged that large crafts take longer to stop and the highway code of the sea is that you watch out for larger crafts. There isn't much point of arguing who was at fault if you are dead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afishionado Posted May 23, 2005 Report Share Posted May 23, 2005 'A larger craft in a restricted channel does have the right of way' a rather dangerous and misleading comment I feel. but lets not get into a detailed discussion regarding the COLREGS ........... If you can get by without actually steaming into them (or endangering your, or any other, craft of course) it's for the best. At the time of imminent grounding on a shallow area with breaking waves one does not have the time to discuss the details of col reg. And as a general rule of thumb in 'restricting' conditions in a 'restricted' channel the vessel with the greater draft has the right of way. I would not hesitate to hold my course if, to do other, would put me and my craft in real danger. Mad Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueboatdriver Posted May 23, 2005 Report Share Posted May 23, 2005 With absolutely no offence meant to anyone here, I cannot imagine a time when an Arvor is likely to be constrained by its draught or restricted in its ability to manoeuvre in the East Looe channel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
great white Posted May 23, 2005 Report Share Posted May 23, 2005 Out of interest The east Looe channel has just been surveyed and they are about to remark the channel as the sandbank towards the East buoy has moved inshore . The channel will go to the first red then about due east, taking you outside the above sandbank. I have a photo copy of the survey and will bring it to the next meeting [Memory permitting] The col regs lay down the rules for stand on and give way vessels, but I do not remember what the rules is about low flying ones. having watched the kite surfers at evening hill and heard some horror stories about what happens when a gust comes and they are airbourne [ Landed on road 2 broken legs, lost grip kite now wrapped around floor 5 of a highrise building] I would try and avoid them completly. I am sure a board in the head would ruin your days fishing. Charlie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afishionado Posted May 23, 2005 Report Share Posted May 23, 2005 As a matter of interest......... If one shot down a kite boarder whilst he/it was airborne, could it be entered on the clubs specimen list? Or would it/he have to be terminated whilst in contact with the sea? Mad Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverick Martin Posted May 24, 2005 Report Share Posted May 24, 2005 If one shot down a kite boarder whilst he/it was airborne Mike wrong forum this is the fishing club not the gun club Martin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack Posted May 24, 2005 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2005 An Arvor is unlikely to be constrained by its draught in the East Looe channel.[ You are of course quite correct, thus the reluctance on our part ,to move onto the Hook sands to avoid the "flyers".We might have chanced it in flat calm, but not on Sunday,..jack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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