Member Removed Posted July 10, 2005 Report Share Posted July 10, 2005 GREETINGS ALL, I"M A NEW BOY FROM KENT ( THE BEST + WORST CRICKET TEAM IN THE LAND) I WONDER IF ANY OF YOU GUYS HAVE A DAY ANGLER AND COULD HELP WITH A PROBLEM I"VE HAD IN A FOLLOWING SEA LAST WEEK. REGARDS BECKS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afishionado Posted July 10, 2005 Report Share Posted July 10, 2005 GREETINGS ALL, I"M A NEW BOY FROM KENT ( THE BEST + WORST CRICKET TEAM IN THE LAND) I WONDER IF ANY OF YOU GUYS HAVE A DAY ANGLER AND COULD HELP WITH A PROBLEM I"VE HAD IN A FOLLOWING SEA LAST WEEK. REGARDS BECKS Please DON'T SHOUT! So what is the problem? Mad Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Removed Posted July 11, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2005 HI MIKE,SORRY ABOUT SHOUTING, NEW KEYBOARD COMING THIS WEEK. I WAS FISHING ALONE LAST WEEK WHEN THE WIND GOT UP TO 4-5 NW WHICH IS ONSHORE WHERE I LIVE. WITHIN 10 MINUTES I HAD A NASTY 4FT SEA QUARTERING THE PORT AFT. THE STEERING IS TO STARBOARD SO I MOVED TANKS ECT TO TRY AND BALANCE THINGS UP WITH NO LUCK. SEVERAL TIMES I THOUGHT I WOULD BROACH , JUST MANAGING TO SWING HER BACK. I HAD A VERY SLOW AND HAIRY RIDE HOME. I HAVE TRIM TABS FITTED BUT ONLY USE THEM IN HEAD SEAS. IS THIS NORMAL BEHAVIOR WITH THE DAY ANGLER OR IS THERE ANOTHER APPROACH? CHEERS BECKS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncan Posted July 11, 2005 Report Share Posted July 11, 2005 I am struggling to understand the exact nature of your issue so, rather than ask more questions I will interpolate and risk gettign it wrong! if what you are experiencing is from an overtaking quartering sea when you are motoring then thi sis normal for many many boats. possibles ways to reduce the risk of broaching 1. speed up and get stearage way back again 2. definitely don't have the tabs down at all 3. trim the engine (drive or OB) up a bit to ensure you aren't driving down into the next wave 4. zig zag - change the angle to a more acute one then switch back to the other tack, or 5. see if the boat will run straight and true with the sea directly behind. hope this helps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newboy Posted July 11, 2005 Report Share Posted July 11, 2005 Pretty much as Duncan said. Do a long detour if you must. Last year I was in Freshwater bay, the sea got really rough and I decided to come in, but because it was blowing sw, I couldn't travel nw as the quickest way back to Lymington. I had to go w/wsw further away from the Solent before turning the boat round and get the wind behind us to come in. Here is an article about broaching, which I thought was really good. All about broaching Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul D Posted July 11, 2005 Report Share Posted July 11, 2005 Becks, My work colleague has a Orkney Day Angler and reads this forum, I am sure he will post if there is anything specific re: Orkney Day Anglers . However, I am pretty sure there will be nothing particularily bad re: the Day Angler ( I certailnly hope not as this is the boat I am considering getting next ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afishionado Posted July 11, 2005 Report Share Posted July 11, 2005 I would NEVER speed up in those conditions. If the boat obtains enough downhill push from a following sea it can surf down the wave and bury its nose in the wave in front as it tries to overtake the back side of the forward wave. The result of the back end trying to go faster than the forward end is the classic broach, where the stern swings in a wide ark around the fixed point of the bow buried in the wave in front to the point that the hull is broadside to the following wave and can be turned over. One has to distinguish between real danger and an uncomortable and scary ride home. I think you did exactly the right thing. A slow plod letting the wave motion overtake the boat but keeping enough way on to move through the water and maintain steerage. In realy bad conditions a long loop of anchore warp tied to each of the stern cleats and trailed well behind the boat has an amazing steadying affect. The RNLI use this method and it is well explained in Dag Pikes book 'Power boating in rough seas' Another very important point is ......... Where you launched is not necessarily the SAFEST place to head for if it cuts up rough. the best bet might be to anchor up in sheltered haven, or a weather shore and wait for a lower wind. In the summer months there is almost always a significant drop in wind speed as the sun starts to go down and for about 40 min' after sunset. Mad Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Removed Posted July 12, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2005 GREETINGS ALL, THANKS FOR ALL YOUR HELP ON THIS SUBJECT, CERTAINLY GIVEN ME PLENTY TO THINK ABOUT. I HAVE OWNED 7 BOATS BUT ALL HAVE BEEN DEEP V OR CATHEDRAL HULLS. I HAVE READ DAG PIKE BUT THOUGHT HIS ADVICE DIDN"T COVER SEMI DISPLACEMENT BOATS JUST TRUE PLANING HULLS. ANYWAY PRACTICE MAKES PERFECT THEY SAY, STILL BE NICE TO HEAR FROM A DAY ANGLER OWNER TO PUT MY MIND AT REST AS I BOUGHT THE BOAT FOR FISHING 10-20 MILES OFF, NOT POTTERING ABOUT INSHORE WORRYING ABOUT ONSHORE WINDS WHICH WE GET PLENTY OF ON THIS COAST. THANKS AGAIN FOR YOUR INPUT. BECKS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afishionado Posted July 12, 2005 Report Share Posted July 12, 2005 Taking a small 20 ft boat 10 to 20 miles off shore on a regular basis? One has to admire your bravery, particularly with the constricted big ship lanes off the Kent coast. It should be you giving us advice Mad Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Removed Posted July 12, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2005 MIKE, THERE IS NO BRAVADO INVOLVED, WE HAVE TO TRAVEL OFFSHORE JULY ONWARDS TO CATCH ANY DECENT FISH. BECKS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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