Wedger Posted November 14, 2005 Report Share Posted November 14, 2005 Found these food smokers for a friend who is going to install one in his new kitchen. As there has been a little chat on the subject just wondered if y'all were interested. There are more out there but these seem quite good and are available locally. See them here Enjoy . T Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plaicemat Posted November 14, 2005 Report Share Posted November 14, 2005 Here's another one that I think I may go for Smoker here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wedger Posted November 14, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2005 Hi Terry, Same manufacturer, I think, looks fairly good but would need to take a look see! Outlet in Weymouth or Portland I think. T Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plaicemat Posted November 15, 2005 Report Share Posted November 15, 2005 Let me know if you hear anything about it. Just got back from a quick afternoon trout foray so have 4 nice rainbows around the 4 to 5lb mark which would have made very nice smoked fillets!. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wedger Posted November 15, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2005 Jeepers Terry You need to sort out some proper cold smokin' for those darlin's I could get you started on the cheap and show you how to build a good cold smoker. I've built a few cold smokers over the years. The last one I used for 10 years before I moved house. A hot smoker takes a little more thought as you need V accurate temp. control for best results. It is however, very doable. Once you have your smoker, and of course, learn how to use it, the most crucial thing is to ensure you have the best possible materials. You must also learn how to judge the quality and condition of your food through all stages of production, allowing you to adjust each process and achieve perfection. I've been out of this for a few years, and historically my main interest is in cold smoking, and I'll gladly pass on any tips you may need. Personally, I would avoid the tin pot, gimmick smokers other than perhaps for a Barbie do, just as a change. Smoking history, tells that smoking was all about preservation of food in a palatable form without the need for refrigeration or freezing. Indeed the later weren't available when the processes were developed. Initially I understand it was used and developed to enhance the flavour of cured and pickled food after accidental discovery. There was then the realisation that smoking further extended the shelf life of the produce. Smoking therefore, is only one part of the preserving process, yet the one always referred to. Curing through dry salting, brining or pickling is always used as the primary method of moisture reduction, which is an essential part of the wider preservation process. Air drying after curing is sometimes used before cold smoking and further processes may be used such as cooking or cooking in a Smokey atmosphere, i.e. hot smoking (but not always). Each process reduces moisture and/or imparts a preserving agent (salt, spice, condensed smoke etc). Oops! I'm wafflin' If you are serious about it there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wedger Posted November 15, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2005 Terry, Here's the link to the Kate Walker book. If you do buy of course, for goodness sake use the Club's link to Amazon or Maverick will hang us both. - I took liberty of editing so we get commission if this link is used. - thanks PaulD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plaicemat Posted November 15, 2005 Report Share Posted November 15, 2005 Thanx for all this good stuff. I think I'll try and catch up with you on this as it is difficult to visualise details via this medium. I think I may still have your number so will contact you when I'm in your area next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverick Martin Posted November 15, 2005 Report Share Posted November 15, 2005 use the Club's link to Amazon or Maverick will hang us both. You bet he will Martin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul D Posted November 15, 2005 Report Share Posted November 15, 2005 Use this link here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wedger Posted November 15, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2005 agents No. 2 & 3 are a bit swift out off the blocks tonight........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wedger Posted September 3, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2006 Well let's just resurrect this one a bit......... And I Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wedger Posted September 3, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2006 (edited) So you Edited September 3, 2006 by Wedger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wedger Posted September 3, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2006 Loaded and ready to go................ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjb Posted September 3, 2006 Report Share Posted September 3, 2006 I use a bradley smoker for hot or cold it's great had it for 2 years do all my game bird's in it it's great gjb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wedger Posted September 3, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2006 Prior to smoking, although not necessary, some prefer to lightly dress with olive oil, and a nice twist would be oil which is primed with lemon zest. This is not traditional but nonetheless a delicate and personal touch. Hang the sides in your smoker by the pectoral lugs skewered through, and also a skewer through the head dorsal area. Ensure the fillets aren Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wedger Posted September 3, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2006 Rest the fillets after smoking under chill for at least 12 hours to mature. This evens out the smoke and allows all the necessary chemical reactions to occur. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wedger Posted September 3, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2006 Trimming should follow. Note the deeply cut area............ this was a bruise removed, as bloody areas should always be excluded Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wedger Posted September 3, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2006 Ready to slice............................ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wedger Posted September 3, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2006 You may vac pac and freeze or chill here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul D Posted September 3, 2006 Report Share Posted September 3, 2006 Trevor, It it possible to go into a little more details on the smoker itself. ( as in what is exactly in the "fire box" ). cheers Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wedger Posted September 4, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2006 (edited) The smoker is a 45 gallon galvanized drum. Top cut out and 4" hole in the bottom for the smoke transfer pipe. Simple lid of roofing tin, corrugated to let the draft through. Hessian sacking acts as a fly screen and draft damper. Simple rails to hang the food from. Smoke box is a 25 litre drum on its side with the transfer pipe let in tightly at the top on the closed end. The lid forms the door and I use the 1" and 2" caps to let in the air supply. Simply by rotating the lid and using whichever hole is needed. Draft always at the bottom. The smoke is generated by fine hardwood dust packed into a roasting tray and set smouldering. I currently use oak but beech is equally good. Use fine dry dust to create a continuous slow smoulder. Avoid fast burning as this wastes dust and creates heat which you don't want. Fill the tray with dust and compact down, leaving it ramped at one end where you will start the burn. Use a blow torch or hot coals to start an even burn removing any coals before loading the smoke box. with the dust and tray I currently use, it will smoke for 5-7 hours, weather dependant. It is important to note that you don't need lots of smoke, a mere whiff will do. If you have lots you will be creating heat. The required smoke is very little as all you are doing is allowing a small amount to condense onto the food and be absorbed. This process is affected by the dehydrated state of the food, time and to some extent the temperature. Hope this helps. Edited December 7, 2008 by Wedger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wedger Posted September 4, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2006 The smouldering oak dust in the tray. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wedger Posted September 4, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2006 Draft set with larger hole used at the bottom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plaicemat Posted September 6, 2006 Report Share Posted September 6, 2006 One other point, Trev, and only slightly at a tangent, do you hapen to know where I can get plastic bag tube for my vacuum packing machine. I am experiencing great problems locally. I need 11 inch wide tube. Terry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wedger Posted September 6, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2006 try here packaging but make sure you get the right gauge. I got some for making Sea Magnet sausages. The smoker suppliers also do some especially for freezing fish. I'll look up the link. T Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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