islander99 Posted July 25, 2006 Report Share Posted July 25, 2006 Hi Guys, I am the owner of a 9 month old Warrior. I was suprised to notice that about a month ago one of the toggles that hold down the canopy to the gunnel had come of . Until this time I had not really noticed that they were held down with pop rivets which does not seem a very satisfactory job to me. Since then four more have come of plus two which are hanging on one rivet. This is due to corrosion of the rivet, I am thinking of changing rivets for stainlees screws as they come loose, although once I have drilled the rivet out, the hole may to big to selftap into. I am going to contact Warrior about this ,but thought I woud see if any of you have had the same problem and what you have done to rectify it . Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afishionado Posted July 25, 2006 Report Share Posted July 25, 2006 Hi Guys, I am the owner of a 9 month old Warrior. I was suprised to notice that about a month ago one of the toggles that hold down the canopy to the gunnel had come of . Until this time I had not really noticed that they were held down with pop rivets which does not seem a very satisfactory job to me. Since then four more have come of plus two which are hanging on one rivet. This is due to corrosion of the rivet, I am thinking of changing rivets for stainlees screws as they come loose, although once I have drilled the rivet out, the hole may to big to selftap into. I am going to contact Warrior about this ,but thought I woud see if any of you have had the same problem and what you have done to rectify it . Mike Many boat manufacturers use rivets and with suitable sealants behind the joints they are perfectly satisfactory, but as always there is a BUT In this case the BUT is that the rivets used in boat making should be made of a metal called MONEL. (rivets made of monel are also used in aircraft construction) Monel rivets are impervious to salt water corrosion but the metal is much much stronger than the normal ally rivets. And this is sometimes the cause of them not being used. To compress them into use either an air pwered rivet gun is needed or a bloody great 'Lazy Tongs' device, an ordinary plier action type doesn't work unless one is Superman. So what happens is if a lazytong isn't available jolly Jim the workman slaps in a few ally rivets 'cos no one will spot the differance for a couple of years. You can buy monel rivets from some chandlers (very expensive like 25p each, which is yet another reason they might not be used) or try a local fixings company like Allfix in Poole. Other than that S/S screws will do but they must be 316 quality for use at sea. the catalogue company Screwfix do a bloody good S/S all purpose screw with a great cutting and holding thread, it's their Stainless steel Turbo range. Mad Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shytalk Posted July 25, 2006 Report Share Posted July 25, 2006 just rplace the rivets with stainless ones if pos also put a washer on the back of the rivet before pulling it up to spread the load Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlieannear Posted July 26, 2006 Report Share Posted July 26, 2006 As an aside I got some Lazy Tongs riveters in In-Excess a little while ago- about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlieannear Posted July 26, 2006 Report Share Posted July 26, 2006 ... Other than that S/S screws will do but they must be 316 quality for use at sea. the catalogue company Screwfix do a bloody good S/S all purpose screw with a great cutting and holding thread, it's their Stainless steel Turbo range. Mad Mike They are A2 not 316... Cherry's Chandlery, over at Moordown, are closing down (20% off everything) and he sells screws/bolts/nuts etc loose, rather than in packs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam F Posted July 26, 2006 Report Share Posted July 26, 2006 Islander, I have a 3yr old 165 and to be fair the rivets have held out pretty well - I have replaced 3 of them now. If you need a few replacements, just drop line to Warrior they will stick a bag FOC in the post - provided they are washed down after each trip they should be fine.... Adam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islander99 Posted July 30, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2006 Thanks everone for all your replies and good advice as usual. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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