Auxiliary Outboard Mounting

[Harry S]

Dear All,

 

I expect that this has been the subject of previous posts but, if so, I cannot find them! I have a Mk 1 Warrior 165 and want to fit an auxiliary outboard. Most pictures I have seen show the auxiliary mounted on the port side. Is there a good reason for this, as it seems to make the tiller arm difficult to reach? Is the reason weight distribution (to counter the starboard battery box and/or the helm when running on main) or is it to do with the direction of torque? Any advice gratefully received before I drill large holes in a perfectly serviceable hull.

 

I also hesitate to ask whether I should buy a 2 or 4 stroke auxiliary having read recent posts! My main engine is a Mariner 60hp Bigfoot 2 stroke which is going really well.

 

Looking forward to the new season.

 

Best regards,

 

Harry S

Edited February 12, 2007 by Harry S

[lady jane]

opposite side to what you fish,

let your crew struggle

[Adam F]

It doesnt matter Harry.

 

It depends on the setup of your boat, as you are correct in that you need to balance out the weight, so consdier where your batteries etc are.

 

Another tip is to make sure you back the bolts with a piece of marine ply or similar, just to spread the load.

 

FYIW, mine was mounted high up on the portside, it worked fine here. Although I have seen many 165's with them mounted low in the engine well alongside the main engine.

 

As for 2/4 strokes, if you only want it as as back-up go for a 2 stroke, simple to maintain and cheaper. If you are going to use it (trolling etc) then a 4 stroke is the way to go. 2nd hand 2 strokes are also easier to find.

Edited February 12, 2007 by Adam F

[plaicemat]

I have a Warrior stainless bracket fitted to the engine well on the starboard side. I haven't used it in anger until now but intend to this season. My bait tank will now dwell on the opposite side.

 

Terry.

[Les L.]

Maybe weight also argues in favour of 2 stroke aux - i got 60hp on Warrior 165, fine when i got it but as I slowly added stuff - baitwell being single heaviest item and me and regular crew got fatter its getting harder to get the boat onto the plane. Also at speed in a chop I ve found the aux can bounce around a fair bit if its mounted high like mine, another argument for a lighter 2 stroke.

 

Seem to remember few threads in past about steering the aux - some use an extension handle, others use the main engine so the port v starboard positioning not so important

[Gazza]

Harry,

 

Are you left or right handed?

 

Mines port side

 

When i had to use my aux the other week it seemed more comfy to sit astide the transom with your bottom on the little bait well things (with the lid on). with one foot in the well and the other inside the boat even then it was a bit of a stretch to steer properly.

 

I must get a telescopic handle!

 

As for balance just move your weight bucket around

 

Gary

[Coddy]

Another tip is to make sure you back the bolts with a piece of marine ply or similar, just to spread the load.

How bigger piece of ply and how thick do you need?

 

Also do you put the bolt heads inside the boat or on the outside on the aux bracket?

 

I need to fit mine during this rough spell.

 

Coddy

[Adam F]

Coddy,

 

18/25mm Ply is adequate, it needs to be about the same size as the 'foot' that mates with the transom. Its not essential and I dont think Warrior use them, but BW had one fitted and I thought it a good idea.

 

The one I have taken off the new boat was bolted using self tapping carrage bolts...

 

Lastly, bolt heads on the outside, nuts on the inside.

[Coddy]

Thanks Adam thats great.

 

I can get s/s nuts and bolts from work so that's easy.

 

Coddy

 

[jack]

When considering which side to fit your Aux engine bracket,bear in mind that,although it looks neater overall,the "inside" is next to useless !!..I will get my coat. jack

[Harry S]

Coddy,

 

Warrior do recommend a plate on the inside - I bought a 20hp mounting bracket from them for a 4HP motor and they supplied a painted ply plate about twice the size of the foot of the bracket and 3/4" thick. They also recommended mixing up some car filler, smearing it over the whole of one side of the plate and 'sticking' it in place on the inside before drilling from the outside (once set). The wooden plate on the inside of the boat can also be quite useful for attaching electric junction boxes etc. Hope this makes sense!

 

Regards,

 

Harry

[endeavour boats]

Does the transom ply not go all the way up to the top of the transom on the Warrior?

 

[Harry S]

There is no transom ply in the area being discussed - we are talking about fitting an auxilliary outboard bracket on the back of a Warrior to the right or left and above the level of the main transom. There is only fibreglass in this area and Warrior recommend a backing plate. Harry S

[great white]

Dave I have some offcuts of 18mm marine ply here if you need a piece

 

Charlie.

[Coddy]

Thanks Charlie

 

I will pop around soon.

 

I almost for got I need to pick up a telephone number from you as well.

 

Coddy