Afishionado Posted July 24, 2007 Report Share Posted July 24, 2007 (edited) Went out about mid day in sunshine and a bit of a breeze, off to a mark that I had not tried before (Sadler). Just like the cartoon Peanuts as soon as the anchor gripped a large band of black cloud came up to sit on top of us and the wind rose to about a 5 with a long fetch all the way from Cornwall . But we thought we would at least have a go... Impossible to get any bait down to the bottom without it being stripped by minute bream. Eventually as a point of principal and going down to a freshwater size 10 hook I did hook one and after a vicious fight lasting all of 15 seconds I scooped up a 4" long red bream . By now it wasn't comfortable being out there with lumpy short waves bouncing us arround, so we upped the hook and went off to join all the other angling boats sitting in the shelter of Brownsea. Minute bream wereonce again a pest but Marks son did hook and land a very nice plump red bream of I guess a pound and a bit. After an enforced four weeks of not being out it was lovely to be out there again even if the fishing was not brill'. Friday coming looks a fair day and Monday next week looks even better so here's hoping. Mad Mike Edited July 24, 2007 by Afishionado Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverick Martin Posted July 24, 2007 Report Share Posted July 24, 2007 Well done on having a go and especially catching red Bream a species I have as yet not caught Martin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul D Posted July 24, 2007 Report Share Posted July 24, 2007 Me too - never seen a Red Bream yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swainiac Posted July 25, 2007 Report Share Posted July 25, 2007 Could have been a couch's Bream.....also getting more common round these areas...and no club record exists as yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afishionado Posted July 25, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2007 Without a doubt bream, with a distinct pink hue? Red Bream???? OK, well certainly not an eel, can we start from there and go forward? Please send fish identity chart asap OR you guys are just whimps that can't catch red bream Mad Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neal Posted July 25, 2007 Report Share Posted July 25, 2007 Type in Red Bream Gilthead Bream and Black Bream to Google search for pictures and description as Red Bream description below. Identification: Deep laterally flattened body, with large scales, that are also present upon the head. Single long dorsal fin, who's anterior portion is composed of 12 spines, with the posterior formed of 12 to 13 soft branched rays. The anal fin is approximately half the length of the dorsal fin, and has 3 spines at it's anterior that is then composed of 12 to 13 branched rays. The top half of the head and body, along with the fins, has a reddish orange colouration. This blends into a rose tinged silver of the sides and belly. The lateral line is distinct, and is accompanied in the adults by a black to blackish red spot, just behind the gill cover. The gill cover has no spines and is untoothed. The eyes are large and are further back than the low set mouth. The front teeth are small and sharp, with 2 to 3 sets of small rounded blunt teeth towards the rear. Breeding: Spawning occurs in deep water, during the late summer and autumn Habitat: Rocks and seaweed's of shallow waters, down to depths of 250M or more. This tends to be a shoal fish, although the size of the shoals decreases with age of the fish. Red Bream have a summer inshore migration, and is the commonest of the sea breams in the UK. Food: Diet normally consists of small fish, long with crustaceans, and the occasional squid. Range: Most often seen at the Western end of the Channel, and South West Ireland. Summer migration however, results in wide spread distribution including the North Sea and even up to Norway. New one on me - didn't know Red Bream were so common Neal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomBettle Posted July 25, 2007 Report Share Posted July 25, 2007 Mike Are you sure it wasn't a species I refer to as "Brown Bream". They tend to have a pinkish hue and show up around slackish water taking baits and lures that dwell to long at the bottom. I think the Brown Bream's latin name is Trisopterus luscus for anyone who wants to check it out. PS: A great fish ID website is http://web.ukonline.co.uk/aquarium/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
great white Posted July 25, 2007 Report Share Posted July 25, 2007 Well done Mike A red bream is rare now You should have popped it on your new scales, taken a photo and I am sure we would have a new Club Record Charlie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul D Posted July 25, 2007 Report Share Posted July 25, 2007 We woudl have done if it was a Red, since the record for one is still vacant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncan Posted July 25, 2007 Report Share Posted July 25, 2007 so where are the photo's then Mike? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afishionado Posted July 25, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2007 Having looked at the fish ID site that Tom showed, I am pretty certain the only sizable fish (about a pound and a bit) was a Couch's bream as it looked exactly like the photo on the web site. Truth to tell I had never heard of such a fish. My previous (not great) knowledge, bream were divided into Red and Black sorts. The titchy things were unhooked and returned without any real examination, all I can say is that they were a pink hue. Mad Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinbad Posted July 26, 2007 Report Share Posted July 26, 2007 Mike Didnt see you out ? - we were also out to give the Engine a decent run, and any other excuse I could find for a day off work in the sunshine. We started off at the Pier, drifting for mackerel - but nearly blanked except for the odd one or two, then spent a few pleasant drifts along with two charters between the Piers close inshore, but also were plagued by bait robbing bream or pout. I couldnt tell as nothing came to the surface. We were also getting bashed about in the cold breeze, and sitting under a big cloud, so blatted off to Old Harry and spent a few hours on the drift in the lee of the cliffs, in beautiful sunshine, but by now there was a stiff F4-5 (so much for metcheck's 8-10mph!!!) The mackerel werent in great abundance, but those that we had were real fatties, just boating one or max two to a string. Great to be out, as usual, but conditions were not up to the promises, and we came back in arround 6pm.... Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afishionado Posted July 27, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2007 Didnt see you out ? We were well out (2 miles) from the pier on the edge of the Dolphin banks. Mad Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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