Great British Railway Journey BB2

[Adam F]

Just watching this on BBC2 - Michael Portillo presenting - chatting to a chap call John Pinnigar about fish stocks...

 

This guy john was taking about the lack of cod and the cod wars in Hull..... then went on to say how we need to stop eating Cod and start eating the more plentiful species..... like Bass and John Dory!!

 

Re reckons that in the Channel bass numbers have increased 4 fold in recent years!

[Paul J]

I saw it today on BBC iplayer http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00ps...to_Bridlington/

 

I see the commercials are still managing to portray themselves as good old captain birdseye types for whom we should all have sympathy.

Braving those harsh conditions to bring us our tea - what a load of bo....cks.

 

If we can manage to destroy a fast growing fishery like Cod that is controlled by quota's etc.

what chance does a slow growing fish have thats currently taken before it's got a chance to breed?

 

god help us

 

PJ

[codpiece]

 

Braving those harsh conditions to bring us our tea - what a load of bo...

 

PJ

Try deep sea in the winter Paul. Derek.

Edited January 9, 2010 by codpiece

[Paul D]

Braving those harsh conditions to bring us our tea - what a load of bo...

 

PJ

Try deep sea in the winter Paul. Derek.

Maybe so but still doesn't get away from the fact that cod stocks have been decimated in Newfoundland to the extent they were/are almost brought to extinction and cod stocks in the North Sea are/were going the same way.

 

If that can be done to as fast growing fish like cod then Bass stand no chance.

 

In Newfoundland once the commercials had caught all the cod they switched to dogfish and made them endangoured - now that must take some doing !!

[codpiece]

Not what I was saying at all!!! I repeat, working the deep offshore N Sea and N Atlantic etc in winter conditions is not a load of bo----cks. Try it!! derek.

Edited January 9, 2010 by codpiece

[charlieannear]

Without wanting to offend anyone, I think what PJ is getting at is that there will be very few (if any) trawlermen 'braving harsh conditions to bring us our tea'. And not that the condition aren't harsh. They look bl**dy atrocious. Closer to the truth is that they are braving those harsh conditions to make (loads of) money, and to hell with the long-term results of the best money-making methods.

[Paul J]

I was angry at Portillo's comments about cod being in decline but that bass stocks were healthy - basically giving the green light to a non enlightened public to take the next poor species to the brink.

 

They are using Bass to appease the commercials who are pissed off about Cod quota's.

I really don't know why we pamper this sector, if it's not viable they should do something else!

 

Rant over

 

PJ

[Fugazi]

Shopping in Poole yesterday I noticed that M & S are making a big thing about all their fish being sustainably caught by 2012. I'm not sure what that means, but they are using references to hook line and sinker in their statements. Let

[codpiece]

I hope they dont mean, hook, LONG line, & sinker,there can be nothing less environmentaly friendly or sustainable. the Bass fishermen using lines & lures down west are only managing to take enough for their local market economy. the large super markets advertising ''sustainable'' fish ie salmon, tuna, trout, etc are farmed, with other species on the slabs marked ''line caught'' I would imagine, Bass, Cod, etc would be two slow growing for a farming process, Derek,