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Posted

Thanks Dave

 

1. Am I correct in saying these are proposed "Marine Conservation Zones" and not "No take Zones"

 

2. What is understood to be defined as the difference between the two above?

 

3. Has anyone got the exact positions [Or corner waypoints] of these proposed areas, if so out of interest, I would like to draw them over my software to see what marks they clash with

Posted

Hi Charlie

 

Yes these are the proposed areas, not yet been confirmed by our govenment.

 

If you scroll down to "VIEW" on the interactive map you can go into layers and see what is proposed, depths etc. etc.

 

I can not see many suggested "No Take Zones" in our patch, South of Portland Bill there is a small area and a larger one almost mid channel, the other is around St.Catherines Point, Isle of Wight

 

Carrying out a search on "No take Zones" I found this:

 

No Take Zones – EIR 201104


 

In the context of this response, the term „no take zone‟ is interpreted as a management tool for nature conservation. There are currently three areas within the UK where the taking of all seafish is prohibited for reasons of nature conservation – these are at Lundy

 

1, Flamborough Head2 and Lamlash Bay3. Additionally there are two areas in UK offshore waters which are closed to bottom trawling and fishing with static gear (including bottom set gillnets and long-lines) to protect cold water coral reefs through the North East Atlantic Fisheries Commission – these are North-West Rockall Bank and Hatton Bank4. There are also many no take zones in UK waters that have been established for reasons other than nature conservation, such as exclusion zones around oil and gas platforms and military exclusion zones.


 

In addition to this there are many areas which have restrictions on the use of specific types of fishing gear such as the closure of Darwin Mounds in offshore waters north of Scotland where the use of bottom trawl and towed nets that come into contact with the seabed is prohibited5 and Strangford Lough where there are two "Sea Fishing Exclusion Zones" where fishing for seafish by any sea fishing boat is prohibited6.


 

Regarding plans for the establishment of future no take zones for nature conservation purposes, within English territorial waters and English, Welsh and Northern Irish offshore waters "reference areas" will be established where extraction, deposition and disturbance are not permitted to allow the habitats and species present to recover to "reference condition"7.

In Welsh territorial waters the Marine Conservation Zone mechanism under the Marine and Coastal Access Act will be used to introduce a small number of highly protected Marine Conservation Zones. These areas will be protected from extraction and deposition of living and non-living resources, and other damaging or disturbing activities8.

 

For further information on JNCC visit: http://www.jncc.gov.uk/


 

Posted

Hi guys 

 

I thought that I would give that a go, on a quiet Sunday evening for the two areas by us, that look to be in the 2013 colours [Red]

 

With the intention of marking them on my charting software, to see where they are exactly and see what is included.

 

The South Dorset area as shown on the Map [using Martin's method above] appears to be between

Latitudes 50 41.762 and 50 35.524

Longitudes 002 40.916 and 002 01.950

 

Plotting those on Garmin Mapsource has very strange results, 

especially as the top left corner would be ashore?? :rolleyes:  :rolleyes:

Posted

I get:

TopLeft of area = 50.6955 degrees N  and 1.899 degrees W           50  41.73' N  1  53.94' W

Bottom Right of area = 50.677 degrees N and 1.873 degrees W     50  40.62' N   1  52.38' W

 

MCZ_zps5f6313d8.jpg

Posted

Thanks Brian :D

I knew someone would know

 

What conversion are you using to go from the interactive map to Lat/long

 

and can you do the same fr the larger South Dorset area that is South of Weymouth

Posted

Hi Charlie

I moved the cursor over the corner of the area and read of the degrees at the bottom of the screen. It's in degrees and decimal of degrees so had to conver the decimal degrees to minutes.

 

I make South of Weymouth area:

 

Top left corner = 50  25.00' N    2  24.6' W            Top right = 50  25.00' N  2  1.2' W

 

Bottom left  =      50  21.35' N    2  24.6' W       Bottom right = 50  21.35' N  2  1.2' W

Posted

Thanks Brian

 

That is close to what I roughly took off the chart grid last night

 

an area outside some of our marks and inside some others, contains about 9 or 10 wrecks

 

If it was a No Take Zone , it would be interesting to see how the fish on those wrecks compared to others near by

Posted

Dave / Charlie A / All

 

Do you know what the proposed restrictions are going to be for commercial fishing, boat traffic, anchoring and Recreational Sea Angling in the MCZ's

 

Charlie :D

Posted

Charlie

 

As far as I can see there has not been a detailed map of the proposed site.

The one shown on the web site here http://www.navitusbaywindpark.co.uk/project.aspx is not to scale

 

I can not confirm but I think Poole rocks will be a "no anchoring" area which will be interesting to see how they will monitor this. I also believe that there will be no trawling or commercial fishing in the area, wheather this includes potting or not I am not sure.

 

Of course the new proposed by-law to ban some trawling within 6 miles off-shore may well be in place by the time this gets of the ground.

 

Dave

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