Gnasher Posted December 24, 2005 Report Posted December 24, 2005 Just been out to sort the boat out 4 boxing day(thought i best not be doing it 2moz!!) and the steering wheel won't turn. It looks like the steering cable has jammed. There is about an inch movement on the wheel, but the cable is stuck. Anyone know where i start? I recon it may be jammed in the unit behind the wheel, but anyone know the best place to start? I will be messing about trying 2 fix it 5.30 on mon, prob out in the snow just so i can fish. Quote
shytalk Posted December 24, 2005 Report Posted December 24, 2005 more likely to be stuck at the motor end helm is simple remove the cover plate off the back and the workings are there to see unusual for that to jam it normaly strips the teeth on the helm Quote
blueboatdriver Posted December 24, 2005 Report Posted December 24, 2005 I would agree with shytalk. The same thing happened to a friend of mine; he forced it from the helm end which in turn damaged that end when the problem was at the motor end. Quote
Maverick Martin Posted December 24, 2005 Report Posted December 24, 2005 Dan As Peter and Simon have said the engine end will be the problem, used to happen on my Hardy 17. Try turning rocking the engine from side to side without using the helm, it may just free it up. Martin Quote
shytalk Posted December 25, 2005 Report Posted December 25, 2005 or disconnect from the engine and give it a tickle with a mellet on the end to jar it loose Quote
Newboy Posted December 25, 2005 Report Posted December 25, 2005 Best to remove the cover at the wheel end and seee if you can free it, just a series of bolts. Quote
Afishionado Posted January 11, 2006 Report Posted January 11, 2006 How did you get on with this problem? If you are still stuck try disconecting the engine from the steering to ensure that it is not the engine that has stiff rotation. Mad Mike Quote
Gnasher Posted January 11, 2006 Author Report Posted January 11, 2006 mike, no luck, still stuck. I have disconnected from engine and the engine moves freely. I will have to get it sorted, but as im in the process of moving, i just havnt got round to it. I have spmeone comming round on Mon who will hopefully sort it out, and with a bit of luck, give the yammy a service. no rush though as ive finished for the season now anyway. time 2 consentrate on some sourse fishing for a couple of months now. Quote
Gnasher Posted January 11, 2006 Author Report Posted January 11, 2006 oops, should of run the spell checker through, hehe.............. Quote
Wedger Posted January 11, 2006 Report Posted January 11, 2006 Dan, I had this on my Wilson/Mariner 60 some time ago. Had emulsified and hardened grease together with a little corrosion in the tube that guides the rod on the end of the teleflex. (sorry about the technical terms) Seal gone . I disconnected both ends to make sure I did no damage when I belted it out. It helped a great deal to work in some penetrating oil (Kent rust penetrant). Contact time for the penetrant is far more important than vigour with the mallet ..patience pays. When removed, a darn good scrape out, cleaned with alcohol, silicone spray and dry. New seals and packed with marine grease. Good Luck T Quote
Swainiac Posted January 12, 2006 Report Posted January 12, 2006 T, where does one obtain the said releasant?? I've got the front hub on the Hi-Lux partially dismantled, and the cones on the outer hub are proving a tad difficult to free up......even with a little "tickling" as Pete puts it, with a hide hammer!!! I'm off today, so will have a check around Town for some. Rich Quote
Afishionado Posted January 12, 2006 Report Posted January 12, 2006 the outer hub are proving a tad difficult to free up Tried heat yet Rich? Often works to break interference fits that have seized up. Mad Mike Quote
Wedger Posted January 12, 2006 Report Posted January 12, 2006 Rich our fitter gets the stuff, I'll find out more today....... T Quote
DommyBoy Posted January 12, 2006 Report Posted January 12, 2006 Dan, What time is he coming over Monday? Once weve both moved we'll have a go at the wheel bearing aswell? Gnasher will be sea-worthy once more....... Dommy Quote
Wedger Posted January 13, 2006 Report Posted January 13, 2006 Rich you have a PM All Kent Rusty Penetrant is labelled as 'professional use only' so you are unlikely to find it in the shops. It SHOULD be standard in many workshops so ask around your friendly chaps for the odd half can. T Quote
Gnasher Posted January 22, 2006 Author Report Posted January 22, 2006 brand new cable needed, salt has apparently knackered the old one. Been quoted 50squid for cable plus 20squid to fit. Quote
Newboy Posted January 22, 2006 Report Posted January 22, 2006 Fitting should be a piece of P. All you do is pull a cord thru when you pull out the old one and then attach the cord to the new one and pull thru. Quote
DommyBoy Posted January 25, 2006 Report Posted January 25, 2006 Anyone know of anywhere Me and Dan can get some cord cheaper than Quote
Afishionado Posted January 25, 2006 Report Posted January 25, 2006 Anyone know of anywhere Me and Dan can get some cord cheaper than Quote
Newboy Posted January 25, 2006 Report Posted January 25, 2006 The bit you want is call 'cable', the cord was what I would use to thread the new cable thru. Quote
Afishionado Posted January 25, 2006 Report Posted January 25, 2006 D'you know I never knew you could buy just an inner Bowdenx type cable for a Teleflex system. What's more it would be nigh on impossible to thread a cord down through the outer cable to pull it through, but then why would you want to pull it through with a cord.?. Or am I missing the point entirely? Mad Mike Quote
Newboy Posted January 25, 2006 Report Posted January 25, 2006 When I said the cable, I meant the inner cable together with the plastic sleeve. And I was referring to this about pulling thru the new one. Quote
Gnasher Posted January 25, 2006 Author Report Posted January 25, 2006 its the inner cable. for 20 quid il get it done properly. Quote
Sinbad Posted January 26, 2006 Report Posted January 26, 2006 Dan I replaced the whole system on my boat, and it changed the steering experience of two handed manoevering (which btw is potentially dangerous, not being in full control of the throttle....) to being able to spin the wheel with one finger. I'm just illustrating the point, that for me, it was the best Quote
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