Paul D Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 Mind you - retrieving the anchor using the Alderney method in Burnham was not such a clever idea. There is say 10 ft of water, so steamed around to pull the anchor up and the buoy slid down the rope and evidently imbedded itself in the mud. Problem then is you dont know where it is ! Our "buddy boat" at the time told us - "meant to tell you not to do that " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul J Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 Don't throw too much money at it (unless you want to of course) a bit of S/S from Walter Shaw scrap metal and a bolt should come to less than Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul J Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 Good useful discussion guys- give yourselves a pat on the back Paul J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afishionado Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 Don't throw too much money at it (unless you want to of course) a bit of S/S from Walter Shaw scrap metal and a bolt should come to less than Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack Posted January 26, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2006 [QUOMike, im interested in this as i have no room ahead of the roller to fit a restaining bar. Nor me Paul. also my overactive brain has been rehearsing moves,leaving me with the following doubts/queeries. 1. the strap will have to be above and over the roller. 2.Any fitted restraining strap would need to be high enough to allow the anchor stock to pass partially through it.when stored. 3. If it stands 2 or 3" proud . When you move foreward to recover the anchor, the warp will take the strain toward the stern.The warp will jump out of the roller [as it did before,causing damage to the wings ] and then all the strain will be pulling on one side of the strap,I feel the twisting force will damage the whole roller assembly and its support pillar,as it was never designed for this angle of strain. oooerrr..jack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coddy Posted January 26, 2006 Report Share Posted January 26, 2006 Forgive me if I am wrong but isn't it easier to buy a drop nose pin for the bow roller. Just ensure you fit a short lanyard to it so when you drop it it is not lost into the sea. Not sure what a Drop nose pin is? look here Drop Nose Pin Most bow rollers have a hole already for one of these, just measure the size of hole and width across the roller bracket and obtain the correct size pin. Coddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afishionado Posted January 27, 2006 Report Share Posted January 27, 2006 Forgive me if I am wrong but isn't it easier to buy a drop nose pin for the bow roller. Just ensure you fit a short lanyard to it so when you drop it it is not lost into the sea. Not sure what a Drop nose pin is? look here Drop Nose Pin Most bow rollers have a hole already for one of these, just measure the size of hole and width across the roller bracket and obtain the correct size pin. Coddy Yes your right if there is room for it but a lot of modern bow rollers do not have high enough cheeks. Mad Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack Posted January 27, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2006 You've got me there,Coddy,I see the pin and the lists,but it could be Chinese.What is the pin for,and what does it do ?. Yes I know I'm thick,but better to ask than pretend that I know... jack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afishionado Posted January 27, 2006 Report Share Posted January 27, 2006 You've got me there,Coddy,I see the pin and the lists,but it could be Chinese.What is the pin for,and what does it do ?. Yes I know I'm thick,but better to ask than pretend that I know... jack The roller is within two cheeks, the cheeks on some bow rollers are higher than the diameter of the roller by 2 inches or more. And some even have a hole through each cheek on this higher portion as well. It is through these paralel holes that a pin can be fitted thus capturing the anchor rope within the bow roller. The 'drop nose' bit is just a little counterweighted bit of metal that drops down to form a T with the pin so as to stop it sliding back out. Coddy is sugesting that you use one of these even to the extent of drilling the holes needed if your bow roller does not have them. Mad Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverick Martin Posted January 27, 2006 Report Share Posted January 27, 2006 Jack Take a look at bow rollers Look at the top right fitting the drop down pin fits across the two holes above the actual roller, the job of the pin is to retain the warp in place Martin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncan Posted January 27, 2006 Report Share Posted January 27, 2006 and just to complete the picture Jack - yes you would have to remove the pin when stowing the anchor. however you could mark and drill a hole in the anchor stock enabling you to lock it in place with the pin again as an option! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack Posted January 28, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2006 "The Pin". sounds the way to go.Andy is sure that there is not much height to the plates at either side of the roller,but if need be,we will replace the roller altogether,providing the Arvor has enough room under the roller to work with fresh bolts.We shall see. in the meantime many thanks to all our readers for thier help; advice ;support; and humour....jack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam F Posted January 28, 2006 Report Share Posted January 28, 2006 Sounds a good plan Jack - if it were me I think I would replace it - from memory it is just plate SS? If you go for a nice long forged jobbie - 1.) it will be alot tougher and 2.) If you get it right you could have the anchor self stowing on the roller? Then no need to replace the pin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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