plaicemat Posted November 29, 2006 Report Share Posted November 29, 2006 Not a great report but a report none the less in a period of report sparcity. I've been getting desperate to waggle my pole and today looked about as good as it's going to get. Came down with my crew and decided to have a harbour day. After consulting the Oracle (Maverick) we decided to go towards Wareham and drown some worms. First cast, 31/2lb bass. This is going to be too easy. Fourth cast for my crew, 21/2lb flounder; nothing the matter with variety. Rest of the day, 1 small schoolie and a lot of crabs. However, it was good to get a blow and we both enjoyed our day. One small concern. I experienced a problem on the way back of getting the boat up on the plane; when I opened it up, all that happened was the nose tried to bury itself rather than lifting up. No different size crew, no more gear and, although the anchor and rope was in the bow locker, I've done that before when I've gone out drifting. In the end I got my crew to sit right on the stern, opened her up and then trimmed the engine up to try and force the stern down and she eventually popped up. I though perhaps I had taken some water on board and it had somehow settled in the bow but, nothing. Bizarre. Terry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam F Posted November 30, 2006 Report Share Posted November 30, 2006 Terry, Have you tried unscrewing the blidge cap? Water can accumulate in here from the wet anchor locker which isnt 100% water tight. Apart from that, I cant think what it could be - the 60hp shouldnt have any issues.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alun j. Posted November 30, 2006 Report Share Posted November 30, 2006 Hi Terry, Well done on getting out; first report in ages and a couple of nice fish. Could the 'nose-dive' be anything to do with those trim tabs? If they were down too much or pressing too hard, then they'd lift the stern and push the nose down. Are you fishing over the weekend; weather will determine my plans ...... but I will get out somewhere!! Alun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plaicemat Posted November 30, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2006 Water in the bilge was my only idea, Adam, so when we had recovered, I opened the bilge drain on the slip and...........nothing! Now, this all started after I'd done a tight turn in the channel to go back towards the harbour from the river. I appeared to get cavitation but wasn't going that fast and after that the problem started. It remains to be seen if it does it again next time. Aluns note also reminds me; after all my support for Lowrance and 4 years troublefree use, my chartplotter went tits up. When I connected the battery, the chartplotter sparked up immediately without having to be switched on. It then just 'pulsed' with an annoying beeping, the sort one gets on start up when told not to rely on these instruments. Not 'alf. I tried disconnecting the cable and replacing it but it just did the same. What's that all about, then? Alun, I'm shooting Saturday but could possibly do Sunday. Let me know your plans. Terry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plaicemat Posted November 30, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2006 (edited) Having just checked the met for Sunday, Alun, I think I'll pass. 27mph winds and rain; not a recipe for a pleasurable day's fishing. Terry. Edited November 30, 2006 by plaicemat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alun j. Posted November 30, 2006 Report Share Posted November 30, 2006 Terry, Those Lowrance symptoms sound similar to the first unit I had; it kept turning itself on, flashing and beeping [and not working] . After about 4 disconnect and reconnect tries, it died completely. The next unit kept losing its fix and wasn't sorted , even with a new antenna. So, after many frustrating hours at the dealers, I took the offer of a swap to a Garmin. Although the screen is not so big nor as clear, it's much easier to use, quicker to get going and seems to work well but hasn't had much use yet with this weather ! Looks like Sat will be the better day ...... but not sorted yet. Alun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plaicemat Posted November 30, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2006 That's exactly what's happened to mine. I've disconnected and reconnected a few times and now, today, it won't go at all. I've been advised to try re-setting it but then, of course, I lose all my waypoints, a lot of which have been hard gained. Bu@@er. I will be opening a discourse on this as I've other information to divulge but hope to get Silva (UK importers) involved so as to get the difinitive word. Needless to say, the additional information does not endear me to Lowrance in future but, we'll see. Terry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seamouse Posted November 30, 2006 Report Share Posted November 30, 2006 Terry, It isn't clear whether you've drained the underfloor (the bung inside the bilge in front of the tank) or just the bilge (the bung on the back of the boat). Adam is referring to the underfloor bung but even when my hull on Lookfar split and I had a monstrous volume of water in there, we could still plane easily enough three up. SeaMouse, by contrast, planes so readily it is hard to spot the transition but no amount of trimming out will put the bows right up in the air. That may be the altered trim of the Pro Angler but I suspect it is mainly the trim tabs. If your problem came on after a hard turn and some cavitation, maybe your prop wash has shifted the setting on one of them?? Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plaicemat Posted November 30, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2006 Thanks for your added interest, Steve. No, I have drained from both bungs and the inner one was completely dry, even with the boat tilted at a fair angle. I did consider the trim tabs but, having checked these, find them to be as before. The intriguing thing is that Stingray has been performing perfectly for months now with the tabs fitted and goes up onto the plane effortlessly. It wasn't just the once though, I tried several times when we moved positions and the same thing happened. I think this is going to take more investigation. The thing I can't understand is, nothing has changed; if I'd taken a big biffa as crew, fine, but I didn't. I'm sure it is probably the tabs, upon reflection, but, why now? Terry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afishionado Posted November 30, 2006 Report Share Posted November 30, 2006 I have a similar thing on my Samurai (Warrior hull). It simply the additional lift of the tabs at the stern. I use the power trim on the engine to lift the nose to get the bow up to the ideal angle. Mad Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plaicemat Posted November 30, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2006 I've got no problem with that, Mike, that's what I did, but it took a considerable amount of thrashing to achieve lift off. My point is that it hasn't done this before and has been running fine on the settings. It's not even as though it was rough in the harbour; it was near perfect conditions. I will take some of the pressure off the tabs and see if it does it again. Terry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newboy Posted November 30, 2006 Report Share Posted November 30, 2006 It does sound like the tabs. Just a bit of guess, is the damper gas or oil? it might be that in cold weather the oil thickens up and takes that much more effect for the dampers to be compressed?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plaicemat Posted November 30, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2006 Good thinking, Kam, but it was fine on the early outward journey when it was colder. Can't be discounted, though. Terry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverick Martin Posted November 30, 2006 Report Share Posted November 30, 2006 Terry When you say the boat finds it hard to plane, do you still get full revs? if thats the case it maybe your rubber insert thingy in the prop come loose (forget what its called) Martin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plaicemat Posted November 30, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2006 Yep, bags of revs and power to boot, only trouble was it was all put to burying the bows! I use the Turning Point type of prop that doesn't have a rubber thingy. It has a polymer insert which is attached and, I don't believe, can come loose. No, I don't think there's any doubt that the trim tabs were to blame in some way but, I don't know why. Or why then. How can a tight turn have a lasting effect? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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