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PBSBAC should write a booklet on the pros and cons of anchoring, this our most discussed subject, every year it comes up. Especially when you have just lost your trusty anchor. Perhaps we could have a refer to page on the site for FAQ and answers, it would make great reading as well as constructive information for our new members. Having had both types of anchors, I prefer the delta type on the ground I anchor on mostly. The key to most stuck anchor retrievals is to make sure you connect your chain to the base of the anchor and cable tie or trip the chain to come loose under strain to the shank eyelet. If you do not trip your anchor you chances of recovery will be reduced. Also when anchoring over rocky ground, lift your anchor at the slack tide, have a drift for twenty minutes the re anchor your mark, this reduces the chance of the chain becoming entangled a round the rocks which is the worst way to get stuck in.

But that is not the main job of the chain Rob. The main job is to weight the shank of the anchor so the angle between the anchor and the boat is shallower therbye assisting the anchor to get a grip. The bigger the boat you have the more important this is. A Longer/heavier piece of chain also helps reduce snatch. The secondary job is to act as a counterbalance in the Alderney set up.

How very dare you Niggle, there is nothing normal about our Madness breakfasts

7.30 bridge........yea right,what about your normal breakfast????[emoji23][emoji41]

I dissagree on the length of chain thing Tony, i feel it is more about the weight of the chain. 20ft of 8mm weighs c.8.4kg and 20ft of 12mm is c.20.4kg. So i think balance the weight of chain to anchor is needed, so 5kg anchor with 7.5kg chain is spot on for lifting with alderney ring. R

I would always err on the heavy side with anchors, most places you put the hook in are fine then go to one spot and the anchor drags, a bigger anchor helps plus a good length of chain 1.5 x boat length is a good guide. Then loads of rode, when the anchor doesn't want to hold 5 x depth is often needed particularly when there are a few waves around creating some snatch. Your setup sounds fine except I would want a longer rode, there are a lot of 30m marks round here so that would mean 150m. I think up to a 10kg anchor is quite managable on the Alderney ring, any heavier and it gets very hard work to lift over the side with the chain, for me anyway. On my 10m boat I use 15kg anchor, 16m of 8mm chain, 200m of rode. Very happy with that setup except would like another 60m of rode for some mid channel anchoring spots. I use a windlass with an Alderney ring as a backup. The idea of an anchoring guide sounds good. Fisherman's requirements for anchoring round here are far from typical with our depth of water and speed of tides. Non boat anglers have no clue what is needed for anchoring in 30m of water in 2 knots of tide.

Leisurely??????????????? 7:30??????????????? More like crack of DAWN!!!!!!!!!!!

If using a windlass, when ordering chain &rope the gypsy guide must be used.

A Delta is also worth considering. A more pointed anchor to dig in, seems more effective than the Bruce pattern. Always use chain greater than the length of the boat. Tony