Robo

I always use Esso in the boat, after all the bad reports about cheap petrol ruining car engins Interesting point though

Hi Coddy, Thanks for staying up so late just for me Seriously I thought about the lanyard last night and felt it must kill the ignition somehow but I have a spark on the top cylinder at least When I had the air box off the front of the engine I turned the ignition on and saw a little flick of the throttle butterflies, not much movement but definitely some movement, I assume that means chokes on? The interesting thing is if you turn ignition off and on again no movement, leave ignition off for a few minutes then turn ignition on and the butterflies flick again it's clever in it, like it knows it's cold but almost like the longer the ignition is on the choke gradually goes back to normal idle position, so turning the ignition off then back on resets the choke to on, I suppose it's better than steaming three miles without realizing you have left your manual choke on! I spoke to a chap on a car forum last night he said this BETOL model of yamaha outboard rarely develops any serious faults, going on to say they were better than the new four strokes in terms of reliability, sounds like there have been issues! This guy has worked on yamaha outboards for thirty years and he bet me I have water problems, not me personally:D but my fuel, his advice was also to drain everything spray some carb cleaner through the jets, his words were cleanliness is only next to godliness when it comes to your fuel system, prompting me to do the best job I can So I'm going to start with the fuel system and be ridiculously thorough with it, put some new fuel in and see what happens, it's funny most people advise me I have water in the fuel but if these plastic tanks are ok where's the dam water coming from??? The only way I can see water getting in is 1. Condensation inside the tank 2. Water in the fuel in the first place 3. Due to the vacuum inside the fuel line it sucks in rain water/dampness over a period of time left on the boat??? beats me where I could be getting water in my fuel but I

It's a good point about the lanyard switch, I wonderd if it might be faulty I will add that to my check list, it does go in and out when removing/replacing the lanyard but might be faulty though It's frustrating looking at a mint engine that for no obvious reason won't start Historically it goes on the button and runs really well, I was going to leave it until next year but if there is a serious problem I would rather get it sorted and at least know i'm going into next season with a tip top motor I guess I have some home work, watch this space to reveal the Gremlin! Eel go one way or tuther At least ive looked at most of the obvious things now it's time to get my hands greasey and I'm thinking about a crimbo cod trip! Time to get out catchin! Re: otter thing, the desease is spreading! Yamahanostartupus!

Thanks for the Tips, I havent checked the earth strap but under the hood it looks brand new, nice and oily with that engine spray thingy stuff all over the place, I think BHG marine like it greasey Not tried full open throttle, the carbs looked spotless inside, I cracked open the drain plugs on each carb just enough to see if there was any fuel present and there was, so just nipped em back up I only checked the top plug for a spark with some thick leather working gloves You will be pleased to know what remains of my hair is still in place lol not sticking up I guess there are a few things I can try before I go down the expensive route

Just to clarify, A discussion I had with my fishing buddy, can you keep fuel in these plastic tanks? I imagine there is a safety consideration but apart from that is it ok to keep fuel in them for a few weeks? or do I dump it every time I think the boat will be stood up for a few weeks I used to transfer any left over fuel into a jerry can but stopped doing it because I thought there is no difference apart from safety, I cant imagine it will maintain the quality of the fuel any different to a plastic tank My concern was condensation inside the plastic tank, but I expect you get that on all boats especialy with built in tanks, how do you overcome this condensation problem or is it even a problem? it must be the same sittuation with vehicles too?

Hi, no it didnt start, nothing like it, not sure who otter is either lol The fuel is about three months old, been left on the boat in a plastic yamaha tank not covered up but the boat is at home and fairly sheltered in the back garden I looked into the tank because I had the same thought, water in the petrol, I couldnt see anything i dont suppose I would What gets me is not a single fire, nothing, you would have thought it would show some sign of life even if just to spit at me and tell me to get stuffed, well it did the last part Seriously I'm scratching my head, I think I wil dump all the fuel, empty the fuel line, strip the carbs fill it all up again and see what happens, the fuel filter was spotless cheers for the contact info

Hi chaps Had a bit of a problem Sunday, I was looking forward to a cod trip on my boat after a long and difficult period of illness, I thought to get out would do me good and after only been out twice this year and worse case scenario engine wouldnt start, gutted! It's been sitting too long with little use I believe, game over for the day and it was nice weather too! So really i'm trying to find a good outboard repairer, mobile prefered or I will have to tow the boat to them Historically I have used BHG at Bucklers hard which is a bit of a trail , especially on my own, it's not easy to get the boat out from where it's stored or back in again That said I have always had great service from BHG so it's kind of worth the hasle If I can find a local guy that is into the older two stroke Yammys then it's all good, no need to haul the boat up to Bucklers The engine is in very good condition with low hours, looks almost new so I hope this is not the end I have a fully charged battery, fuel in the tank and the plugs were wet and smelled of fuel, so I guess it's getting through, also I checked the top plug for a spark and sparks away very well, havent checked the others though I pulled the air box off the carbs and I noticed a little fuel in the bottom two venturies but not in the top carb, not sure if that is significant?? There are three carbs in total on this motor so I would have thought it would at least fire but nothing? not even a maybe ill start, completely dead Before you ask lol it's in neutral and the lanyard is connected Also I checked the inline fuse on the engine as this did go once before but all good, I looked at the fuse very carefully I'm happy it's good, only thing left for me to do is a compression test as soon as I get chance, oh' the plugs are mint aswell I have run out of ideas so if anyone knows of a good engineer I would appreciate having the contact details Cheers Rob.