Adam F

Were going to have another bash at the cod Terry. If you want to come along, we are meeting at 9am at Muddiford slipway. Adam

I think 'thats a biggun' has the right idea!

Bob F, Gordon, Shaun and I went out to Chesil last night for a bit of beach bashing for a change. Conditions looked perfect, warm, after a good blow, and the night time flood tide... But alas fishing was very slow. No a bite to anyone for at least a couple of hours and even then only very small put taps. We finally started to catch a few but nothing more than pout and dogs. I managed a very small bull huss of about 1lb. Anyway lovely night to be out, shame about the fishing. It does appear to be very, very slow this year, I know both the poole and IOW boats are struggling for cod and much else? Adam

Thanks Rich, I know where the lights in one are though. Gordon and I may take a foray down there on Sunday for a crack at a winter bass! Anyone fancy it? Adam

...and the forecast is looking spot on for the w/end. Ill be out Sunday, but as Duncan said dont know what or where to go - may head over to the West for a go at the late bass, or congering again, or East to sit it our for a cod??....

Thanks Kam - I thought of that last night - thats the plan! Out of interest, what sort of monthly payment do you guys have for Sky+?? We are about 25 quid a month currently, how mcuh of a jump am I looking at?

I have, and I must admit the ones with the bulkhead and double seating arrangement look very good, full standing height, full glass screen etc.. However, whilst the ride is good, I dont think it can compare to the Warrior's medium V hull. Good thought though, and I will have a serious look at them.

So no good to me then? I have 'normal' sky and want to upgrade to + but for free....!

The Samurai is the same hull as the 165, if you do a search on the forum you will find a couple of long detailed threads discussing them. They are very similar, but when you look close their are quite a few differences between the 165 and the Seahog. The one on B&O's look like a good package - it has a good engine, which is the main thing....(as good as BW?!?!?! ) The Warriors are a higher price for a reason, yes you do pay for the name, but with the name comes a certian refinement, when you look how many 165's are on the water / for sale compared to the Samurai it must tell you something.... The actual ride will be bang on compared to the 165, but it is the interior finish, the mouldings, the lockers, the hatches and catches which appear to have been given a little more thought. Obviously I am very biased! But it is well worth having a look at one (mad mikes?) as a comparison. Adam

Sky Plus?

...comapared to what? Considering a decent 165 is 11-12K, it is another 3K potentially, may be less...I cant think of any other 17' sports boat with a 100+hp engine that stands head and shoulders above the rest - IMHO all small boats such as this hold a similar share of the market?

....Great White SHARK....

...use that then! I use a simple two hook running ledger, using the KISS principle, whilst I am not the master of flounders, it sees me thorugh OK....!

Steve: Just as I thought, and good to hear that from a fellow 165 owner. Tom: they sit on a single axle roller coaster. A new package is about 18K, a little out of budget next year so Ill be looking for a second hand one (rocking horse poo) with a 115hp for about 15k...there has been a few for sale this last 6 months. Kam: That would be great if you could arrange for me? Martin: I agree, the 115hp is THE engine. After having the 60 on BW I wont make the mistake of under powering a boat again, the fact you can cruise at half throttle is the main advantage to me. I had considered hunting a 2nd hand 195 down, but room on the drive, and towing weight put me off - the 175 sits nicely between both. Rich: 165 = 16.5' 175 = 17.5' and the 195 = 19.5' The 175 and the 195 sit about the same height from the water due to the self draining deck which the 165 doesnt have. Total weight of the 175 package would be just over 1500kgs from the research I have done - just within the legal towing weight of my car. Plan is to sell BW just after Xmas and then sit on the cash until a 175 comes along.... AF

Have ruled out going any bigger for the time being. Mooring fees, maintenance, lack of flexability....are all reasons. Therfore I want to stay trailering. I still want to upgrade though and feel the 175 will give me just a little more range, useability and speed. Yes, you are right it isnt too much bigger than BW - 1' longer, 6" on the beam...but it will ride with 90-115HP, has integral fuel tanks, self draining decks etc...so these all add up to quite a bit more than the 165. Whilst BW copes fine with my general inshore work I would like to venture to the ripps and offhsore wrecks a little more often and hopefully the 175 will give me this. Bottom line - I think I will gain more from this jump than by going to a big heavy moored boat where I think whilst I will gain several things I will loose more...if that makes sense? AF

Is their anyone out there either registered on the forum or who uses the forum as a guest who owns or has access to a Warrior 175? I am looking to upgrage my 165 shortly and before I make the move I would like to sea trial a 175. Either post here or PM me if you can accomidate. Cheers Adam

Decided to go Thursday now. Post here if you want to come - Gordon is putting together an order of lug so let us know if you want some also. AF

Nice one Charlie - Great White Too (Two) (II)????? I too have had a good look around the manufacturers site, and looks good. You must have a substantial garden to build a beast like that at home! When do you expect to start / complete her? Those trips to the ripp and channel islands will no longer been out of range! Look out club records! I look forward to watching her progress - dont want to pry too much, but would making a superb link for the site to have a 'building diary' like Chris and Pat have on Deepsea so we can watch the progress of her being built? Adam

A few of us are planning a trip to Chesil this week, probably Weds or Thurs eve. Plan is to arrive around 4pm onwards and fish the night time flood until 11pm ish... Gordon and his mate, Me and Bob F are going, so if you fancy joining us, let me know. Adam

BW may also be on the market after Xmas - the only decision left to make (and its a big one!) is whether to stay trailing or go for a mooring. Decided to leave the Souter 21 I recently saw - for the condition it just wasnt worth the money. Anyway a brand new Aquafish 23 without engine appeared this week - 9995.....swayed me the other way again! Either this or the bigger 175 Warrior...decisions, decisions!

Where's this come from then? You havent bought Enticer have you?....you could have had BW you wouldnt have had to swap the engines then!!

Youll never see me online during the day....

Was planning to do it Thursday night with aim aim to finishing it early next week. Please send any comments over - Ill include them in it. Cheers

Well said Rich. This subject was raised a few months back and makes interesting reading. Whilst contrivesal I feel that this is the only comp of the year where we require a fish to be bought to the scales - the rest of the year I feel I am extreemely conservation minded (the generally attitide int he club has taught me this) and only take fish that will be eaten FRESH, not frozen for later...anyway....I made the decision to return 20 odd eels on Sunday as they were all under 35lb...having fished previous years and listening to the banter on the radio it was clear that at least 75% was needed to figure - when the 38lber came along I made the decision to take this fish - yes it was a conger, and no I dont eat them. We tried to keep him alive, but alas he died as we got back to the harbour. Bottom line is that the fish was worth over

Nice one Charlie, You mention writing the report....I have been tasked with writing one for the Echo and BFM...is yours to be seperate? Or do you wish to do the write-up overall? Adam