Aux motor security

[Brian]

Anyone got any suggestions how I can make my 5hp Secure (appart from taking it home everytime)? I can't fit the type that slides over both toggle screws as it would foul the lifting bracket in the raised position.

 

Edited October 13, 2012 by Brian

[Mike Fox]

I'm no expert... but could you fabricate something such as:

- One length of scaffolding pole (or similar) - total under a foot.

- Cut in half lengthways.

- Drill holes in each end.

- Two padlocks - one each end

- Clamp over the toggles in horizonal position.

 

Not sure - what do others think?

 

Mike

[Brian]

Mike

That's the problem, the locks I've looked at are like that, but they foul the bracket.

 

This type would be ideal, if there was room.

Edited October 13, 2012 by Brian

[Brian]

This would be ideal, it's called a Stazo lock, but I can't find anyone in the UK that stocks it, contacted a firm in Plymouth who advertise it but they never bother to reply. Also contacted a firm in New York without getting a reply.

[Barney]

Brian

 

Only safe way is to take it home. Any of those locks secure it to the mounting pad.

Some scum bag will just dismantle the bracket.

 

Mick

[Brian]

I realise that, trouble is it's a pain. Normally I'd take it home but if I go out for an evening the boat is left on the pontoon overnight. With the boat on the pontoon I'd have trouble removing it to take it home.

[mw]

Brian if you fit a lock like the one in the picture you would have to weld the nuts on the bracket or they will take the bracket and engine my insurance comp want me to fit a lock on my outboard they say they can undo the bolts and take it my arguement is it moored in the river and it weighs 600 pounds if they can lift that into a boat they can get a lock off

mark

[Barney]

Brian

 

I can get a padlock through the holes in the toggles. Not very secure but would stop someone just walking away with it.

I dont know what the minimum sort of locks the insurance would want.

 

Mick

 

[plaicemat]

These folks may be a little closer for the Stazo,

 

C-Quip Limited

8 - Fulcrum One

Solent Way

Whiteley

Hampshire

PO15 7FE

United Kingdom

 

CQUIP

 

Terry.

Edited October 13, 2012 by plaicemat

[Barney]

Brian

 

Have a look at these, there not to far away and have brought from them before.

 

http://www.pacermarine.co.uk/outboards/acc.../yamaha-lock-2/

 

 

Mick

[Brian]

Brian

 

Have a look at these, there not to far away and have brought from them before.

 

http://www.pacermarine.co.uk/outboards/acc.../yamaha-lock-2/

 

 

Mick

Thanks Mick, that looks as though it'll do exactly what I want.

[Sinbad]

Brian,

I'd be surprised if you could get any sense out of the Insurance company as to what constitutes a suitable lock. As long as there is a lock which cannot be removed other than with considerable force then that seems good enough. If you do all the other things, like take a photo of your deterent, and record all the serial numbers etc - what more could you reasonably do ?

 

I lock my dinghy to the mooring complete with the outboard, then go fishing all day. I'm not saying that someone couldnt cut the chain and nick the whole lot - but that is why I am insured - so I dont have to worry.

 

I couldnt believe after I got done for 5K, that the insurer didnt insist on me fitting an alarm - they thought that as long as there was some lock, that was sufficient. There was no lock on the outboard cover, and this accounted for over 1K of the repair bill. I dont know of many engine covers which are lockable, infact the actual cover for a big Yamaha is worth a fortune!!

 

Unfortunately, if you want to enjoy your fishing, all the effort of lumping every bit of gear back and forward each time just in case you get something stolen destroys the pleasure of just turning up and going.

 

Once we get our Police commissioner, we should make our point as a club as to where the boating community places its policing priorites.

 

Paul

 

[Brian]

Hi Paul

That's why I want to fit a lock, so the insurance company are happy.

I realise nothing will stop the determined thief. It's just a case of taking reasonable precautions.

[charlieannear]

You could get shear-nuts for the bracket fixings?

Shear nuts

Edited October 13, 2012 by charlieannear

[Rob]

 

If CQuip do it let me know as the owner is a family friend!!!

 

Or he was when I saw him a couple of years ago.

 

Rob

 

[Rob]

 

How about a flexible cable lock and lock it to main engine or a secure fixing on the boat?

 

Make it harder to take than the one next to you and they will the easier one.

 

R

 

[charlieannear]

If CQuip do it let me know as the owner is a family friend!!! 

 

Or he was when I saw him a couple of years ago.

 

Rob

He was a family friend?

What did you do?

[Brian]

How about a flexible cable lock and lock it to main engine or a secure fixing on the boat?

 

Make it harder to take than the one next to you and they will the easier one.

 

R

Maybe the easy answer.

[Jim]

It's difficult to nick stuff with no fingers ! ! !

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Could you remove the handle and fit a bolt with one of these:

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/300705776646?ssP...984.m1497.l2649

 

 

Jim

[codpiece]

Brian, Both my clamps are locked. My transome is reinforced inside and out with stainless checker plate and the engine is bolted via its brackets through the lot with 4 stainless bolts. the checker plate is bolted up in its own right the same way, it needed my grandson's small arms up inside the transome to hold the double nuts in place while i tightend the whole lot up with a breaker/tourque bar, a bit over the top maybe, but nothing short of a petrol driven disc cutter will shift it, one drawback, the whole boat has to go when the engine is serviced. but if it is ''nicked'' through all that what else is there? Boat is at my address if anyone wants a peak. derek.

Edited October 13, 2012 by codpiece

[Brian]

Derek

My main engine is bolted on and secured with a lock as shown by Jim.

It's my aux that's the problem, as it mounts on a lifting bracket.

[codpiece]

Hi Brian,, Guilty, I did not pick up on the word auxiliary, but having suffered the ''intrusion'' you had before, short of taking it off i dont know, you would or maybe not know how often the little scroats return, when we got our first Lifeboat house at mudeford (kindly donated by the Rotary club. Xch) i used to leave the doors open so the public could see ''their'' boat, BIG mistake some pratt actualy stole the boats compass. and they tried to break in, unfortunateley like most vermin they seem to breed well. derek.

Edited October 14, 2012 by codpiece

[Jim]

I have got some Number and Letter stamps if you want to borrow them Brian.

 

It'll destroy the resale value of the motor though.

 

Jim

[wotu2uk]

I have a cloth covered motorcycle chain with lock through the handle, wrapped around the lower casing, and through a SS loop on the transom.

 

Still only a deterrent though

 

John

[Rob]

Brian.

 

Crazy question...........Do you need an Auxiliary engine? With a nice modern main engine (I see you had yours personalised with your age written on the back), is there really a need?

 

Have you had main engine issues? Do you ever use the aux outside of "giving it a run"?

 

I bought an aux for my first boat, before I even had the boat! Then purchased a new Johnson main engine so didn't even bother mounting the Aux bracket and sold the aux to a friend.

 

Many of the club boats only have one source of power, a good anchor which isn't tripped (or a way to quickly convert from tripped to secure) with plenty (100m of rode) should hold you should you get in to trouble.

 

There are often a number of members out and other non member boats who would offer assistance to a stricken craft. Just call Tom Bettle, he needs no excuse to leave his desk!!!

 

We have towed the occasional club member, haven't we Charlie!?

 

Rob