biggcol Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 At 0700hrs last Wednesday there was a combined fisheries and police raid at Evening Hill. The target for this raid was the gang of Chinese shell fish gatherers who have been hammering the Clams, mainly Razor Clams. Please be aware it is illegal to take Clams, this includes Razors, without a licence. I have spoken to the fisheries and they confirmed this includes Razors for bait !!!!! charlieannear 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 Sounds good from a "unlicenced commercial" gathering if clams, but, for personal use that's a bit mean!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 Same old story. The Greedy few Bug**r it up for everyone else. Paul J 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cth Posted September 2, 2014 Report Share Posted September 2, 2014 Question how do we tell from non-commercial (ie us) to commercial. if we can come up with a sound idea i would be happy to talk to the SIFCA. regards Chris Holloway, Chairman of Angling Trust Wessex. charlieannear 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coddy Posted September 3, 2014 Report Share Posted September 3, 2014 Chris Can't we use a maximum weight limit like the ragworm agreement? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian.Jones Posted September 3, 2014 Report Share Posted September 3, 2014 New Zealand seem to have the answer. All shellfish are strictly controlled with both bag limits and sometimes size limits applied. A person is allowed to only collect so many at one time eg cockles are 50, clams 20, scallops 20 with a minimum size of 100mm. Only people actually collecting have a bag limit, and fines for infringement are severe, and doubled automatically if there is an attempt ti "hide" the catch. These quantities are adequate for personal consumption or bait gathering, but would be inadequate for a commercial operation. Of course some people bend the rules, mainly Chinese gatherers taking an army of kids along to the beach to boost their entitlement, but on the whole it works. More importantly, it is seen as fair by most and is therefore publicly policed by people like us watching out for abusers and reporting them via a hotline. Easy to remember - 0800 poacher! Scenes of foreign cockle gangs dragging sacks full off the beaches only make the news when their are tragic drowning incidences. Perhaps what we need are fair rules for all that protect stocks for the future and are supported and policed by the public. Like banning commercial trawling within 6 miles of the shoreline.....???? It works elsewhere. Ian Retrowagon and Ark 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggcol Posted September 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2014 Ian the New Zealand way would be really good but they follow up with the punishments where as over here it's only a slapped wrist!!!! Don't start me on trawling. I was out a couple of weeks ago with my son who is making a pop video. We were very early, first light, and right in front of us going along the small boat channel of the swash on the training bank side was a Beamer. I didn't have time to get close enough to get his PE number or boat name as we had to get the film done at first light. Just pure greed . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted September 3, 2014 Report Share Posted September 3, 2014 Pop video hey! Are you the new David Hasselhoff Col? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cth Posted September 3, 2014 Report Share Posted September 3, 2014 not going to comment yet would rather have a plan to go with, and a agreement on what more or less suits all, lets let the thread run for a bit. charlieannear 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niggle Posted September 3, 2014 Report Share Posted September 3, 2014 I believe this country does not fund or police it enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggcol Posted September 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2014 Rob afraid not I was just the boat driver all the shots were of the cliffs and beach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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