pegleg Posted January 22, 2007 Report Posted January 22, 2007 Hi all. What are your thoughts about having a boat survey on 1yr old boat ? Worthwhile or waste of money? Cheers Jas Quote
Afishionado Posted January 22, 2007 Report Posted January 22, 2007 Hi all. What are your thoughts about having a boat survey on 1yr old boat ? Worthwhile or waste of money? Cheers Jas I think you need to state the boat. For the sake of argument Quicksilvers have a bad reputation for cracks and leaks. Also the price. Why have a survay on Quote
pegleg Posted January 22, 2007 Author Report Posted January 22, 2007 Hi Mike, i am taking your answer as a bloody essential then. Cheers Jas Quote
Maverick Martin Posted January 23, 2007 Report Posted January 23, 2007 Would agree with Mike and by your reply would assume you are thinking of purchasing something near the top end of the price range, what is it ...go on tell us ...give us a clue ....Not nosey of course would just like to give you advice . Go on the suspense is Martin Quote
TomBettle Posted January 23, 2007 Report Posted January 23, 2007 Jason All used boats should get the once over by a surveyor. You simply don't know what they have been through and how well they are built. It doesn't matter if it is an Arvor or a Sunseeker I would still recommend it. Tom Quote
pegleg Posted January 23, 2007 Author Report Posted January 23, 2007 Hi Tom, Thanks for the advice. Cheers Jas Martin can't say to much yet because the deal might not happen . Quote
Adam F Posted January 23, 2007 Report Posted January 23, 2007 Martin can't say to much yet because the deal might not happen ...Its the best way Jas - I found out the hard way Quote
pegleg Posted January 23, 2007 Author Report Posted January 23, 2007 I know mate. I think that what happened to you made me think again and try to keep low key as poss. Were you going to get a survey done? if so how much were you quoted? Cheers Jas Quote
TomBettle Posted January 23, 2007 Report Posted January 23, 2007 Jason If you are buying privately then you can follow the same rules as this, but all brokerage boats are usually purchased, "Subject to Sea Trial and Survey". Typically a 10% holding deposit will be placed once your offer is accepted. This is refundable if teh sea trial proves the boat was not as expected or the survey finds a major fault (small faults are usually negotiated around). When buying, make sure you get proper and a full set of title paperwork. It should include: 1) Original purchase invoice from the first owner (shows VAT is paid) 2) First chain of title. Usually a Bill of Sale from the dealer to the first owner, but it can be in the form of a Builders Certificate. 3) Subsequent chain of title (Bill of Sale from all previous owners to the next one) 4) Builders Certificate. This is a must and is often in addition to the Bill of Sale. 5) CE Certificate 6) Owners Manuals, service history, receipts etc. Any probs let me know and I will try and help. Tom Quote
pegleg Posted January 23, 2007 Author Report Posted January 23, 2007 Well Tom can't thankyou enough for your words of wisdom. Hope a pint at next club meeting will do? Cheers Jas Quote
Afishionado Posted January 23, 2007 Report Posted January 23, 2007 Well Tom can't thankyou enough for your words of wisdom. Hope a pint at next club meeting will do? Cheers Jas He's a proffeshnial is our Tom Jokes apart, I and I am sure others too, find Toms impartial help on boat purchasing matters is invaluable. Mad Mike Quote
toerag Posted January 29, 2007 Report Posted January 29, 2007 New boats can have trouble just as much as old ones, especially if it's a new design, the manufacturer is bound to get something wrong. Take my boat for example, it's a proven design but the mould changed hands and the new builders didn't build mine as strongly as they should have done and it's suffered badly from flexing. I know of another 1 year old boat that's got osmosis already as the first layers of mat weren't laid up properly. Quote
TomBettle Posted January 29, 2007 Report Posted January 29, 2007 New boats can have trouble just as much as old ones, especially if it's a new design, the manufacturer is bound to get something wrong. Take my boat for example, it's a proven design but the mould changed hands and the new builders didn't build mine as strongly as they should have done and it's suffered badly from flexing. I know of another 1 year old boat that's got osmosis already as the first layers of mat weren't laid up properly. Yes, new boats can and often do have "snags". By snags I mean a faulty fuse or a loose screw or an irritating rattle. These snags should be fixed as soon as possible by a reputable dealer. From time to time a new boat may have a more serious issue that was part of a fault during the build of the boat (much like Toerag's). Again a serious issue should be jumped on by the dealer to do their best not to spoil the owners enjoyment. New boats do come with little irritations, but that is why you have a warranty and a good dealer will do their very best. It is for the very reasons above that a used / brokerage boat must always be surveyed and tested. ...the buyer can put up with a loose screw and fix a rattle himself, but should he find that the hull bonding is coming away from the superstructure he may well be a little out of his depth. Quote
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