Sinbad Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 Getting slightly ahead of myself, due to an overdue haul out and pressure wash of the hull... I gave the hull a much needed clean and polish. Last two seasons I have used International products (teflon wax, PTFE UV protector, Liquid rubbing compound) - and generally been less than satisfied. The products and maybe the application methods (me) didnt remove scratches, or discolouration or dirt well. I also borrowed a rotary buffer from a boatbuilder friend, which halved the time taken to do the job, but was very messy on cutting. This time, I visited www.boatsheen.com, and bought Brazilian Carnuba boat wax Pre-wax colour restorer CleanCut Compound Plus some applicator pads plus a box of microfibre cloths The Cleancut compound really does blend in the scratches - if like me with a blue hull, one little scratch shows the white of the underlying un-oxidised gel coat. Then the pre-wax lifts out the grime The wax is very easy to apply / buff off, even on a hot surface. The pre-wax does dry on quite hard, so needed a cool day not in the sun otherwise it was difficult to remove. I think where I had been going wrong mainly was the applicator and then the polish - the standard woven cloths or rags from the car shop are far too agressive and open structure and leave fine scratches as well as missing patches. The applicator pads - I used mainly for the polish stage which really speed up the process. Anyway, I think the products are similar price to international. I used less than half of the pre-wax colour restorer, and a quarter of the wax (250ml) so it goes a long long way. If I get a chance I'll post a couple of photos... But with a pair of sore arms, I'm happy Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinbad Posted October 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 (edited) Oh, and nearly forgot... early in the season, I cut a shackle off the anchor whilst on the mooring - success for the shackle, but the legacy in terms of the iron filings have been living with me for the last 6 months -all down both sides of the non slip decking. scrubbing with brushes - soap powder, liquid rubbing, polish etc - all managed to remove some rust, but it just came back. Visit to Owens in Christchurch boat shop - he told me he did the exact same thing. The answer was to use a product called "grime remover" - crystals of oxalic acid. Mixed up in hot water into a solution. It was as easy as making a cup of tea. I just rubbed it on with a small brush and left it to stew. Also put a bit arround the stainless fittings where some rust marks had formed. Then washed it away... and clean and sparky decks again. Paul Edited October 1, 2009 by Sinbad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Fox Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 Sounds like you've been busy Paul! I use stuff called "Mer" for stain removal and polishing, and have done for 20 years. About Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
great white Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 Hi Paul I had better put my sunglasses on and pop over and have a look Be careful with the oxalic acid, If you mix it too strong the solution itself stains. Mike I thought Y10 had oXalic acid in it, but I may well be wrong. For years I used teak cleaning powder, which also contains the acid. Thanks for the advice Paul, now get the boat afloat and dirty again Charlie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fugazi Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 Sounds great, will any of these products remove the brown discolouring I get where water lies in the outboard well below the drain hole level? Gordon H Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 Oh, and nearly forgot... early in the season, I cut a shackle off the anchor whilst on the mooring - success for the shackle, but the legacy in terms of the iron filings have been living with me for the last 6 months -all down both sides of the non slip decking. scrubbing with brushes - soap powder, liquid rubbing, polish etc - all managed to remove some rust, but it just came back. Visit to Owens in Christchurch boat shop - he told me he did the exact same thing. The answer was to use a product called "grime remover" - crystals of oxalic acid. Mixed up in hot water into a solution. It was as easy as making a cup of tea. I just rubbed it on with a small brush and left it to stew. Also put a bit arround the stainless fittings where some rust marks had formed. Then washed it away... and clean and sparky decks again. Paul Small Fry has a few Rust stains. The first owners used a few cheap bolts. I'll give this stuff a try. Thanks Paul. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinbad Posted October 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 Take a sharp intake of breath, as its expensive stuff - and I only used a couple of teaspoon fulls for a litre of solution. I suppose it depends how badly you want to tart up your pride and joy. Gordon - I suppose it'll do a good job of this Your welcome to borrow some to try a patch if you want. Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinbad Posted October 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 Mike, Thanks for the warnings.... I was careful to put the cap back on before adding a spoonful of sugar to the tea. Certainly smarts a bit if you get it splashed onto skin or cuts, so I knew it was strong stuff.... Charlie - I was hoping to get back in asap to avoid the rash of cruisers, so possibly this weekend Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
great white Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 Hi Paul I am working Sat AM so if you need a hand I will be about. Charlie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam F Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 Boat polishing is hard work, so I like to keep it simple. An electric mop does help. I use Farecla http://www.farecla.com/ as a cutting compound if I need to shift any scratches. As for polish - the Carnuba wax is pretty good - but after trying many things the longest lasting I've found is Auto Glym - Super Resin Polish. Mainly sold for polishing cars - it is so, so easy to use - doesnt take much elbow grease to polish it off and leaves a really nice coating on the gelcoat. For those who dont know, regular applications of a wax/polish stops the gel going chalky, makes the water run off the surface easier and makes the boat easier to clean. Bob and I polished JV the other week - took about 10 mins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 Boat polishing is hard work, so I like to keep it simple. An electric mop does help. I use Farecla http://www.farecla.com/ as a cutting compound if I need to shift any scratches. As for polish - the Carnuba wax is pretty good - but after trying many things the longest lasting I've found is Auto Glym - Super Resin Polish. Mainly sold for polishing cars - it is so, so easy to use - doesnt take much elbow grease to polish it off and leaves a really nice coating on the gelcoat. For those who dont know, regular applications of a wax/polish stops the gel going chalky, makes the water run off the surface easier and makes the boat easier to clean. Bob and I polished JV the other week - took about 10 mins 10 minutes ? I'm impressed Adam. I don't suppose you fancy coming and doing a demo on Small Fry do ya ? I'll provide the tea & sandwiches. It'd probably be finished by the time I'd boiled the kettle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam F Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 http://www.autoglym.com/enGB/product-prodd...06VQ=HD&Range=1 Halfords sell it. All of their range are brilliant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 You can't beat AutoGlym SRP - many of the car detailers use it as a base before applying a wax. I do once a year on the cars - JoJo has naver seen polish, but then again she is ABS plastic and not fibre and gelcoat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wotu2uk Posted October 8, 2009 Report Share Posted October 8, 2009 are any/all of the above safe to sluice into the marina when washing off? Are they good for the mullet? John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinbad Posted October 9, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2009 (edited) Hi John, the polish is applied to a dry hull - and I prefer to stand on the land or use a step ladder ? but you probably didnt mean this As for the rust remover gel its used in tiny quantities, generally for any boat cleaning liquids its not really practical or acceptable in my book to wash off in the confines of a marina. just like you wouldnt pour paint solvent or white spirit down the drain? However the tins of paint dont have the specific labelling to say what their aquatic toxicity is, as they probably havent been tested, although the bulk chemical almost certainly would have had all the environmental/ toxicity testing as part of the COSSH regulations. So its really down to the byelaws of the harbour and a bit of common sense approach. Regards Paul Edited October 9, 2009 by Sinbad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wotu2uk Posted October 9, 2009 Report Share Posted October 9, 2009 sorry, I was just joking john Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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