Steve S

I let my lad use Tigerfish and whats my reward. Phone rings, "hi Dad the port side propeller has gone!!" "What did you do?" "Nothing, honest." "What did you hit?" "Nothing." "Have you been ragging the engine?" "No." Further questions ensued but if I believed him it must have come off in the Solent during normal motoring. Tigerfish has 2 Volvo D4 260s with DPH drives with duoprops. The rear port propeller, cone and nut had gone. It is not supposed to ever happen on DPH drives. I searched the Internet and found nothing to indicate loosing props from DPH drives was a problem. I bought a new rear prop from Keypart, lower cost than direct from Volvo. On fitting it rubbed against the front prop, tried on the starboard side it rubbed on that side as well. On checking against the old rear prop the hub was in a different place, see the photo’s. I assumed the new hub must be made incorrectly, but on checking against a drawing it was the old one that didn’t comply. Basically the hub was 3mm further forward on the old prop, or put another way the props had moved backwards. I was starting to think something had happened to all the old props, this was confirmed by a chat to Propeller Solution who told it like this. Over time the props move back on their hubs and after about 600 engine hours or more the rear hubs moves back so far that the prop starts to press against the cone, which presses against the nut. Result the nut comes undone and the prop is lost. All my hubs had moved by the same amount, around 3mm. I’ve now had them all rehubbed by Streamlined Propellers and with everything fitted Tigerfish is running fine again. The new hubs have apparently some sort of lip which should stop this happening. The service schedule does not so far as I’m aware recommend checking for movement of the hub. I think it should. Volvo typically won’t admit the problem so I’m told. So DPH drive owners I recommend checking yourself, the main thing to look for is that there is a gap between the hub and the cone. If not a lost prop is a possibility. Rehubbing is the lowest cost way to correct the issue, both front and rear props need to be done at the same time. Adam very kindly lent me the cone off his boat, it's not going anywhere for a while...., they are out of stock at present.

The very best of luck, hope it is only the weather that is grim out there. Let us know how you get on.

Between Xmas and New Year for me to.

In my view you don't tear up what is already agreed, to rerun a comp that has already been run. If we want another cod comp (Cod Comp 2, the rerun....) and I'm happy to give it another go, I think it will need to be on a date not already penciled in, maybe just after Christmas or January.

Well done, really good Cod from the Solent Nice to hear some whiting coming out as well

I went for rays first up, having got a decent one tried for cod in the Solent, no joy.

Ray comp Blond ray 20lb 14 oz Steve Scott Tigerfish 8 oz lead, 12lb class rod, just after slack, great fight.

1) Court Jester Neal, Stuie, Roger 2) Marlin Greg plus Vic (Non Member) 3) Kingfisher, Chris, Lester McCarthy. 4) Kelly's Hero. John S, Dave S, Allan G. 5) Dream Drifter Alfie, Danny 6) lady jane, Andy and Gordon c 7) Offspray Martin c & Yan (non member ) 8) Yelo, Kev Jacob Mick pike 9) Boblin. Colin. Pete R snr 10) AWOL, Martin, Dean, Tony 11) Tigerfish, Steve & Diane (crew and cook)

My Targa has limber holes all through and 3 water tight compartments with auto bilge pumps. In each of the 3 compartments the limber hole is plugged with a removable rubber bung so a bit of the best of both worlds, just a thought.

I wish you lots of energy Adam, that is one mother of a job there. I'm sure it will be great boat once complete. Seeing how much work is required is making me feel old [emoji53].

Now that's the way to add to your species list. Well done.

Hmm, the various estimates for the proportion of the catch taken by recreational fisherman seems very high, either the commercial fisherman are crap at catching fish or the recreational fisher folk round here are pretty useless or their figures are wrong. I'm betting the latter. Coming soon, more monitoring of us. Steve

Ok, attached are snips from my Raymarine PC app using the Navionics charts one using sonarcharts the other not, last updates were about 9 months ago. 2 Fantasy holes one with X marks the spot. I see I left in 2 waypoints, no problem they are rubbish Steve

Example sonarcharts fiction: 50, 38.08 - 1, 27.53 (brook ledges area) - shows a 177ft hole with surrounding area 32ft. Wow, there got to something fishy going on there. Yep but not the right sort of fishy. Standard chart just shows a 32ft shelving to 26ft area.

Ridges.... sonarcharts makes the bottom look more interesting than it actually is, there are some pretty deep holes and ridges shown which as Chris says are just not there, particularly south of the IoW, thats even before the storms. And also some of my old marks just don't look the same anymore and that is after the storms. However some of the extra detail seems not to be made up, IMO sonarcharts are something of the work in progress, after loading the sonarcharts I marked up quite a number of points for investigation, if I am in the area of one I check it out, some are total fiction so I'm not going to waste fuel with major detours, however, not all are total fiction. Steve

Done

Glad to hear that Alfresco is afloat again Charlie and that your lads don't need Dad to tell them how to do it all the time!

More info http://www.worldseafishing.com/forums/threads/boat-sinks-at-needles.2506998/ photo of the boat: http://www.pixstel.com/dulcie-t-and-osprey-ii_urlb1632.php I see one guy in the post quotes the problem as: a leaky exhaust was letting water into the hull and the pump couldn't keep up. I see from the photo the exhaust it at the waterline as per normal, a big following sea is going to push a lot of water in the open exhaust. If we really know what happened we might all be able to get some safety benefit from the disaster.

Yes indeed Tomo, we came in at 13:00 when our anchor started dragging 3 miles out as the wind got up. I was surprised how flat the Solent was then I guess the wind must have followed us in.

Glad they are all ok, a big shock for everyone. I was out going through the Solent early morning and back and didn't see any of this. It was pretty flat I assume they must have had some structural problem, disaster can strike at any time.

I could use this one myself [emoji1]

Yes i agree with your comments, certainly modern ones are battery operated, it looks old. I thought a suggestion as to how it could be used is better than none and I couldn't think of any use for the body..... except finding metal objects in it.

Sold

Possibly a metal detector, like for finding pipes/cables in walls.

It is my impression there are more around as well. We are certainly catching a fair few on my boat from many different locations. As for small ones I don't remember ever having catching any much below 10lb. Be interesting to get other members views.