Thanks Tom and maverick ,Ive got to the age now when cosmetic goes out the window ,now I just want things to work .Ive got a Mercury on my Botwitco and to be honest its never let me down,starts on the key every time.It gets me on the plane and I never crank it up too far cos it sounds a bit like a biscuit tin full of nuts and bolts.Times change tec improves,Ihad a good chat to the E/tec dealer in Chirstchurch a lovely chap with plenty of time to pass the time of day.He informed me its a great engine 3 years with no service,no need to mix 2 stroke,its got a seperate< tank for the oil>etc-etc-etc.Sounds like a fantastic engine the down side is 60HP brand new is about 7000 smackers.The price of tap washers might just have to go up.