niggle Posted December 26, 2013 Report Posted December 26, 2013 Arrived at boat at 8am and saw this Pi&&ed right off so when Dave phoned to ask what the sea state was like........I told him what had happened and he invited me out!......So over to Cobbs and out I went.we lost two good fish then just dogs and a conger.......it was so much better than being at home grumpy......thanks Dave The marina owner phoned me to say he has righted the boat and my new £100 bilge pump is not working!?......or isn't now! Worse of all he said the engine turns over....................that's now well and truly F@cked then as it was totally submerged!!!!! Now over to both the marina insurance and mine to sort things out!,,,,, Nigel Quote
Ben Posted December 26, 2013 Report Posted December 26, 2013 Gutted for you mate !!!!! niggle 1 Quote
fisherman1055 Posted December 26, 2013 Report Posted December 26, 2013 Bad luck Nigel What a thing to happen to Wishin Too Hope they can get it sorted out quickly What got into the Marina owner , if he has hydrauliced the engine he should get a new one for you. I am sure you will get plenty of offers for a ride, you can even get a slow one with me Tony niggle 1 Quote
Brian Posted December 26, 2013 Report Posted December 26, 2013 Hope you get it sorted without any hassle. niggle 1 Quote
alun j. Posted December 26, 2013 Report Posted December 26, 2013 What a nightmare !! I, like everyone else here, feel for you. Hope it can get sorted quickly and efficiently. Alun. niggle 1 Quote
Maverick Martin Posted December 26, 2013 Report Posted December 26, 2013 Nigel as said on faceache really gutted for you if there's anything any of us can do just ask I'm puzzled, why would a new bilge pump pack up? more likely to be a power issue drained batteries perhaps? especially after all the rain of late, was shore power connected? whatever the cause hope the insurers play ball and get you up and running again pdq Martin niggle 1 Quote
sparky Posted December 26, 2013 Report Posted December 26, 2013 Really, really sorry to see that Nige.............best of luck in sorting this out. Mick niggle 1 Quote
Leicester Fisheagle Posted December 26, 2013 Report Posted December 26, 2013 Nige Gutted for you. Really lost for words. Allan. niggle 1 Quote
Kingfisher 126 Posted December 26, 2013 Report Posted December 26, 2013 Hi Nigel, Gutted for you when we spoke earlier, what a d,head turning engine over!!! :( As I said earlier mate offer stands. What a poxy thing to happen at this time! niggle 1 Quote
Stuie Posted December 26, 2013 Report Posted December 26, 2013 So disappointed for you Nigel. I hope you get it sorted quickly and without too much hassle. Good luck - you need some. Stuie niggle 1 Quote
Reel Wizzard Posted December 26, 2013 Report Posted December 26, 2013 Hope you get it sorted soon, Better luck in the new year Dave. niggle 1 Quote
niggle Posted December 26, 2013 Author Report Posted December 26, 2013 Thanks to you all,messages and calls. Just have to wait for a decision from insurance.......praying they don't call it uneconomical.......I would be gutted then Thanks again chaps Nigel Quote
Guest Posted December 26, 2013 Report Posted December 26, 2013 As per Facebook, gutted for you Nigel. I personally couldnt imagine fishing with Dave while my pride and joy was looking so poorly (If I had a pride and joy that is) but I doubt you could do anything there anyway. Incidentally, I would have tried turning the engine over too .... obviously from above that is a no no?? Why? niggle 1 Quote
Martin.C Posted December 26, 2013 Report Posted December 26, 2013 Really gutted for you mate :-(( You will have to slum it on our 640 until yours is sorted !! niggle 1 Quote
niggle Posted December 26, 2013 Author Report Posted December 26, 2013 Graham,as the engine was totally emerged all intakes would have been full of water so unless the injectors were taken out to release the water from the combustion chambers........then the engine can hydraulic and bend con rods and possibly the crank. Same thing happens to cars when driven through floods,that's why some 4x4 off roads have their air intake snorkel up the windscreen pillar so water doesn't get into the engine cylinders Quote
Ark Posted December 26, 2013 Report Posted December 26, 2013 Just seen post Jacobs been on all day I wonder what Nig has caught. Bloody hell Nig you do get some bad luck I do feel for you, best of luck with claims Well let's hope the new year bring some good news. Kev niggle 1 Quote
gjb Posted December 26, 2013 Report Posted December 26, 2013 I am so sorry to hear and see this I hope you have a quick and hassle free fix Graham niggle 1 Quote
gaffa Posted December 26, 2013 Report Posted December 26, 2013 Feel for you Nige Hope things get sorted to your satisfaction as soon as possible Peteg niggle 1 Quote
Leicester Fisheagle Posted December 26, 2013 Report Posted December 26, 2013 Nige was just on my way out when I caught you news. As I said earlier, I am gutted for you and lost for words. I am sure you will get plenty of offers, but you will always be welcome out on Fisheagle any time.. Hope everything gets sorted ASAP. Allan. niggle 1 Quote
Matt Posted December 27, 2013 Report Posted December 27, 2013 Very sad to see those pics nige, hope the insurance plays ball niggle 1 Quote
Mike Fox Posted December 27, 2013 Report Posted December 27, 2013 Dreadful news Nigel, and I hope you can get the engine fixed as soon as possible. I couldn't see if you had identified the root cause of the sinking? - A few inches of rain shouldn't have done that, even with blocked cockpit drains. A failed bilge pump rarely causes it, unless it was pumping water uphill with the weight of rain water, and the failure caused an open siphon circuit? You might need to reposition the new pump if that's the case. - Have you checked for a split hose, or damaged shaft seals or through hull transducer, or for a damaged sea cock/skin fitting? - You might even have been holed by another boat or storm debris (e.g. a floating railway sleeper going down river in flood waters). A split in fibreglass might be hidden by antifoul etc and doesn't have to be big. It's possible this could have happened at any time, and had it happened at sea, I know you would have noticed, and probably fixed it using onboard materials and spares, but at least this way it didn't involve any risk to life. When that root cause is traced, it would definitely be worth reminding the insurers that they could have been funding a total loss, instead of repairs to a boat that sunk in shallow water and was recovered, with no loss of life. Mike PS The RNLI have tested and have proven that a 3" hole just beneath the waterline will let in half a ton of water every MINUTE....so this might have all happened very quickly! niggle 1 Quote
niggle Posted December 27, 2013 Author Report Posted December 27, 2013 Mike it's on a static pontoon.......cause unknown but possibly mooring ropes got caught up?boat fouled up pontoon then flood water gushed in through scuppers and into engine well Very unlikely it's holed as most of hull is 2 inches thick Quote
Adam F Posted December 27, 2013 Report Posted December 27, 2013 I'd have thought a failed sea cock would be prime candidate? It would take a far mass of water to push her under, but saying that with all the flooding and weather we have had it also wouldn't surprise me. As Martin said, a bilge pump on battery would only do so much and cope for so long, a bit different if on shore power? But it's still only a small pump against a huge amount of water, mind. As you say, over to the insurance now, in my experience they should be pretty swift. A new engine and leg would be cheaper than a new boat so I'd imagine that is the way they will go with it? Quote
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