Sprinter

Hi all, thanks for the replies. Derek, we have moved to the hamlet of truck on the outskirts of Probus near Truro. We are out in the sticks but about 200M away we have the start of the Tresillian river that looks very trouty 4 Miles from the city of Turo but still in the middle of no place, about 20 minutes to the south coast, and the motorcycling roads start outside my front door, in my future i can see a carbon telescopic Bass rod ready for sunday mornings, a big Ducati a Bass rod and a small back pack.... Bliss And not far from the north or south coast, there will be a small (non Kayak) boat in my future, i just have to convince the wife i won it down the pub, i just wish i had 8.5k to spare of i would grab Small Fry in an instant, until then i will have to stick with Kayaking and my dads small boat. Charlie, i will bring a rod back and get Chris to sort out a trip with your boy at some point, thanks for the hint

Hi all, Sprinter here, though I also answer to Paul and have been a member of the club for a number of years. I thought I would first of all apologise for not making many meetings in the last 6 months it wasn

Hi all is there anyone going out on Friday to do any codding with a couple of spaces available? My Son has taken a day off work in the hope of doing some fishing and this seems like a good idea (hes 22 so not a small son), now currently it looks a bit blowey but dropping through out the day but you never know things may change and the blow may come sooner and leave it a little more settled by Friday. Obviously we are happy to contribute to fuel Etc, let me know if anyone is interested. Cheers Paul

Guy's it was good to see you all last night. I wish i had gone with you now but I had to get my bike fixed just in case we do sell the house. Still myself and Chris are a bit peeved at ourselves for not joining you both, after last nights chat i was expecting a good report and was not dissapointed. Good day out guys.

Ben, put me & Larnica down provisionally, its 10 days after i get back from KL but no guarantee that the wife has not already booked something. And we may be pushing our luck with me having a play weekend before coming home, unpacking - repacking then taking off again for a fortnight i cant push my luck much further. But i suspect i will get away with it.

Its interesting thet there does not seem to be any restriction of hand collecting Oysters on that document That must make them fair game then...

This i will try I am currently trying t hand over some complex IT systems to the support team in india, they dont understand my accent (there not alone) and wont read the documents i have written, interesting times... Funny though as we have to call them the "Best Shore Team", i am allways in trouble as i refuse to use those words and call them the "Off-Shore Team" But i like the sound of this suggestion. Thanks

I would love to know if he was properly clothed for the time of year. Drysuits and dive thermals in layers are still the order of the day for me at this time of the year. I guess there is a lesson for us all though, if anyone was to fall out of their boat at this time of the year they would be in trouble very quickly if they could not get back into it quickly, and have a change of clothes.

Hi mate, i sugest that you use two of the batteries that Zzippy has suggested, one for the FF and light and another just for the pump. If anythingunexpected happens then at least you have options.

Happy birthday Mark, have a good day, see you Thursday

ok mate, i will give Ben a call tomorrow and bring the coke

pick me up on the way through Mark or Ben and i will get the cokes in. the more we take the more reprisented we will be and it will diminish the strength of the commys

objection registered mate, good luck

Jon, mark lives in this area, hes a local

The key peice of equipment on any boat of any size i the compentence of the skipper i guess, rather than the size of the hull.

Lifted directly from another site, written by the group leader For those that may be interested to put the thread in context here it is http://www.ukriversguidebook.co.uk/forum/v...php?f=4&t=72034 As i said earlier, these seemed well prepared, and its come to light that the coastguard knew all about them, and that they had multiple options and backout plans that the group were all aware of, one of them was being implimented when an incident started teh ball rolling. To me it reads like the decision was made to call for assistance was done in plenty of time basedon conditions, difficulties and a deteriorating light situation. Good job i say, saved lives

http://www.dorsetecho.co.uk/news/8766356.S..._Portland_Race/ some more info here, the coastguard was aware of them as they had called in a paddle plan prior to setting off. A bunch of instructors and coaches, initially my thoughts was that just made it worse, however my second thought was if it could go that wrong for a bunch of instructors then the rest of us lesser skilled people may have got into trouble sooner. I think there are two thingts that i would take from this 1, phone a paddle or trip plan into the coastguard so they know who and where you are and what time you are due back 2, once things go wrong make the call sooner rather than later, especially if its approaching dark. I am sure a full report will be released giving the details of what went wrong in due course.

Fred, i was of course playing devils advocate (im bored ) but my point i think was that we all have our own skill sets and comfort zones and what one of us feels is barking mad is perfectly acceptable to another. The person you saw on a kayak sailing south of the needles in the car park was possibly "Overrun" a club member or more likely to be honest some chap called Richi, I have chatted to Richi on many occasions and his antics frightent he crap out of me, but he knows exactly what he is doing and is an expert in his field. I think we have some reports from the needles in teh kayak section that may include a trip with Richi, its a good read. He reports on another forum and on many occasions he will paddle over to do some cod fishing only to find that it does not feel right so he will abort and come home, its just a matter or perspective. And yes i think hes nuts as well. Happy new year

I guess thqat so many things could have gone "other than expected" one of them being the poor sod that became incapacitated through severe sea sickness, not really a drama on a boat with more than one crew but one a boat with one crew where that crew is also the motive power it changes the shape of an expedition dramatically. Sure we could come back and state something like if you get sea sick you should not have been there, but maybe that person had not been in that sea state or had trouble before. and maybe they would have stayed well clear of the race, or been there at a more forgiving time if that member of the team did not get semi incapacitated through sea sicknness. Also being "well prepared" could mean different things to different people, to some it might mean having asolutely everything covered, so someone else it may just mean thought skill and preperation to be able to survive something. My view i guess is somewhere in between. these people had enough training to raft into smaller safety groups when hey got seperated and things started deteriorating, they also had enough sense for teh group outside the race to call for assistance rather than going in after the people in trouble and making things worse, they had the means to call for assistance, and the equipment to survive long enough for the emergency services to arrive as save a difficult situation becoming a fatal situation. Fred i am not sure what you mean by proper boat, i can only assume that any boat smaller than yours, or any boat without an engine, or sail is not a proper boat. Maybe the club could come up with a definition for what a "proper boat" is a great deal of non proper boats were out training with the RNLI inmproving our and their skills yesterday in an organised event, I am pretty sure the RNLI never mentioned that we should do this again when we all had proper boats.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-dorset-12106015 yes there all ok, probably a little embaressed and gratefull to the RNLI, however they were well prepared so i guess a touch of bad luck lead to a few errors that put them in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Its true that GPS cant give you an accurate direction at low speeds. However if you can mark your first location on a chart, then in a few minutes (whilst you hope you dont run aground) mark your second location on the chart you will be able to guage your direction, and speed. We all know this of course but it takes a little preperation. I im not going to preach here but if the Vis is dropping use the last of it to locate yourself and plan the nav part of your trip back, If you dont have the tools or knowleddge you shouldnt be out in those conditions (though of course we know that things change and can deteriate quickly, though mostly its forcast). Its just a matter or practice, when i was skippering in the Army we use to go through exercises in plain daylight where we were locked in the cabin with the curtains drawn and forced to navigate through channels, by calling instructions to the helm. Compass and chart is one way of navigating but chart and depth sounder is another method (far less accurate of course) that has its place when navigating fog bound or unknown channels, if you draw 1.5M then tack at 2M back into deep water until your back to 1.5M then tack again. Remember that depth sounders can also be used to check the depth of water to confirm that the place you think that you GPS is putting you is actually the place where you are, not sure if that made sense outside of my own head This was actually fun as you got to practice being in fog in perfect safety, but when it went horribly wrong (it often did) you got to go topside to have a look at the margine for error that you was wrong by. Its good practice and good seamanship.

Adam, to make it absolutely clear the flounder comp is canceled and will be re, run on the 2Nd Jan? Just for your info Anglers Afloat (Ben) is running a flounder bash on that day, this is not an issue but be sure to offer us warm teas/coffees etc Alun that means that you will need a crew for the 2nd, I will still enter but on the Yak

Whilst that is true Duncan, i still think its worth getting AT involved on our behalf to see what they think

Ok guys (and Gal's) We need to think about this, let

Ben (Seagypsy) sent me a PM asking if i fancied a paddle on Sunday, i took no persuading at all, I suggested a trip around Brownsea but Ben suggested Wareheam, personally i was only bothered about getting back on the water so Wareham was the target. I have been to Wareham before once in the car, and once on a floating Bar for a quick pint before getting back to the floating bar and home again, a very nice evening if i remember it accurately. Ive been away from home a lot recently and the wife wanted the car, i know when to leave things well alone and was pleased that Ben would pick me up on the way past. At around 09:45 Ben arrived, we loaded up and set off to Lake Pier at Hamworthy, on arrival the bay was spectacular, a little gray (but if you know me then you know that's a good thing), quite a lot of mist on the horizon , mirror like water surface and superb scenery, it didn't take long to get on the water and start paddling the 6.5 miles to Wareham. we had the last of the ebb against us, there was a spring tide but it was only a slight amount of tide (near 2nd high water), we stayed reasonably close to Arne to stay in shallower water and avoid the tide as much as possible. the scenery was amazing, even being a Cornishman i have to Admit that Dorset has some very pretty areas, this was one of them. We passed a couple of beach anglers, and some commercials claming at the top of the harbor. Ben found the entrance to the main Wareheam channel and we went in, still a touch of tide against us (though we had felt little in the main bay before we entered the channel), the channel was a mile, maybe mile and a half long with lots of curves and bends, you could see the church steeple, but it rarely seemed to get much closer. On the way up the channel we encountered a bloke and his girlfriend going out on their powerboat, the lady advised us not to fall in, and we advised her of something else, quietly. We arrived at Wareheam at about 12:45, pulled the Yaks onto the quay and took the sensible option, so having ordered a couple of pints from a very posh resturant type pub (whilst fully clothed in dry suites and kit), we headed back outside sat down talked bollox and let the world pass us by, after the pint we went up the high street and had a fish and chip lunch which we took back to the quay to eat, then it was time to head home. The tide had turned by this point and the water was now heading out of the channel at a fair rate of knots (1.5 - 2 kts maybe), so we did the correct thing, broke out a smoke and a Guinness and drifted and talked more bollox whilst drifting, no sooner had we finished our beer we noticed a stranded boat on the mud, we laughed about turning the VHF off and heading out of earshot so as not to get involved, though of course we both pointed the yaks at the boat and started paddling, they was outside the channel by quite a margin and they knew it (couldn't hide the fact that they was surrounded by a lot of Mud), anyway they were slightly embarrassed but had tea and coffee making kit, warm clothes and a sense of humor, so they were going to wait it out and float off are about 19:00 - 20:00 tonight. After that my bladder made itself knows and as we were surrounded by dropping tides and a lot of mud we ploughed back to lake pier, had a pee, loaded the Yaks and headed home. I'm tired but satisfied that i had a god paddle, saw some fantastic scenery, had a great pint (fursty ferret i think), good fish and chips and great company, home cold and happy just in time for the wife to put a mountain of roast chicken in front of me, and an open fire, only one more thing to finish the day off properly but the kids are still up ;D Ben was chief photographer and will be along soon enough with some piccies.