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Tomo I had worried a bit about the jet option. Tis one I refused for that very reason after doing the research. That boat is up near yours now, a red hull Mi 21 called Caught Nowt. Good luck with this - can't wait to see it. Trev

Wow! Nice one Tomo. Are you going for the jets and Hysu foils?

A very worrying thought........ job losses, reduced number of centres reduced local knowledge. Listening to some of this on the radio the other day and all of the above were offered as reasons not to close the local centres BUT..... The new/upgraded centres are supposed to be orders of magnitude more capable and collectively superior to what we have now, allegedly. Personally, I would need to see hard evidence from any argument before making this decision. Too much at stake

If you get a chance, put your hands on one of the new Daiwa Saltist twin speed. Absolutely fantastic reel. I have one you can see.

Graham, the horse has bolted I know but Tie a buoy / fender on and go back at slack water?

Echo.....echo that... Not all members have there own boat, so don't feel you have to have one just to join in. As a member, the information thing really takes off as you have access to the club only section on here and the meeting. Dive in.

Wow

Jon, You would get a new Tohatsu 15 hp 4 stroke for

Many thanks Chris. Just wondering how you ensure your blood knot stays put in such a large diameter line and large hook eye? I know some use a locking knot and or two turns round the hook eye. I have found a well formed, three turn 'thumb knot' to be the best and quickest for the larger, heavier lines. Used by many blue water profs. Still wouldn't beat the snell for retained strength but allows movement if that is what is needed.

My take on this would be that you perhaps haven't the time to restore a craft. It really is important to set yourself a budget so you have a framework into which the considered purchases can be made.

Thanks Nige.... Appreciate the input and good luck.. I'll give my results as soon as the're in. Cheers

Copied from another thread, (Santa's Little Helper) so please forgive any inconsistancy... Dave said QUOTE Was this part of the research ref cod rigs Trev.... If so what was the rig and bait ... Give it up Wedger !!! So here is the answer to my Q. posed re fishing experiment to Rup Message from Rup QUOTE Trev,always up for fishing.For what its worth ive had 17 fish so far,only 3 or 4 losses and all have been on a sliding pennel using an 8/0 razor claw big bend and a 10/0 o shaughnessy.The night before fishing i sharpen the hooks on 10 traces made out of 80lb mono.I sharpen them on a bench grinder until they are razor sharp.I bait up with 1 ilex and 2 calamari and whip them on with elastic,i then launch the baits downtide or uptide.Bites on the uptider are huge dropbacks bites on the downtider are usually tiny trembles as the cod swims uptide with the bait usually down its throat.I use soft rods,20lb braid and light leads and play my fish very softly.THe sessions fished have mostly been charter trips and the only person to outfish me on cod during those trips has been son Arran yesterday.I dont say that to be big headed but to illustrate that my method works for me. Rest of message reserved but this bit answers the question. I have variants on the same theme used for Ex. 26/11/10 posted trip Codding on Otter. ......and if you were on the club Shogun trip you may have seen me baiting and fishing..... Further variants to be tested. I haven't seen a firm ref to a cod rig from anyone else on the thread yet - any offerings?

Dave said

All in the best possible taste Bill.................... Honest.....

I don't have trouble with the Greylon and Sakuma hooks but there is a slight tendancy to slacken on the big eyes of the Grauvell Teklons which I use on top. A quick solution if making these at home would be to use the three passes through the eye, but then hang the trace up by the hook with a weight on the swivel end an put a dab of stormsure on the snell.

Try to match the line thickness to the eye of the hook. For best results, ideally the eye should only allow the line through twice. If it will go three times you could put an extra turn through the eye at the beginning. The line I use is quite supple - Greys greylon copolymer 80lb shock leader. Spot on for Sakuma 545 manta extra in 8/0

Here be one of Santa's 'Little Helpers' having a day off codding before the busy season. He was trying to go inconito but his elves hat gave him away. Bless 23lb 12oz too

dan I'd say 80lb. I use Greys Greylon super copolymer shock leader. Tough but very supple, which is important if you use a sliding, wrap pennel.

We seemed to have missed this one............... A Ferret feeling a bit parrot

me too

Jon, It's starting to sound like a lot of work. Homework needed. My yard has seen quite a few project boats come and go. Some mine - most not - thankfully. Let's see the pics! Often a bargain can be an expensive bag of worms. Sometimes, a simple ready to go option will set a pleasant platform on which to build. I was lucky to buy a 'goodun' from a friend. Had that gone wrong I'd have probably given up. T

Next weekend Nige as I had to work this one. Despite the really nice conditions this week, the tide was pants and the fishing (codding) evidently, very slow. You can be assured of a serious try next week if I get the chance. 'Otter' will look like a porcupine with a (fat) science officer on deck I'll be fishing 8 rods with 2/3 crew. 4 methods 2 different, but tried and tested baits. who's up for a bit of science Duncan. I'd be grateful if you would try the loop tied circle as I haven't enough rod/ space for that one. Please report back if you have a go. All data is useful. Bring it on guys..............

Photo's would help. Is the dory cathedral hulled, like I would expect the wilson flyer to be? Is there a cabin, cuddy or spray dodger? There are a number of people in the club who have experience of dory/wilson flyer/pilot/nab type boats. I had a Wilson Flyer 17 with a cabin and bridge screen + 60 hp. Great fun in light conditions. Very stable fishing platform for it's size. As with all vessels they have their limitations as well as advantages and these little gems are no different. A cathedral hull dory is very economical on the plane but can give a very 'lively' ride with even a modist sea running. This did not put me off, but you need to be very steady, confident and fit. As they ride every wave rather than cut through them, there is a great tendency to slam so anything that is not nailed down will become airbourne if you push too hard. I had a great time in mine for many years and fished from Poole and Christchurch, ranging from North Head,The Needles and Southborne at the Xchurch end and Durlston Head to Southborne from Poole. All boats have their querks and abilities so without having been onboard this one it is impossible to give a firm opinion, so take this as a generalisation and not a rubber stamp. A bit more information would be helpful. Good luck

Interesting........... Paul's research

Interesting take Duncan! Here's a professional view from Paul's fishing Kites from New Zealand. Quote Paul's Fishing Kites have conducted extensive research on fish hook types, hook sizes, and the effects of tying fishing hooks versus snelling fishing hooks in the New Zealand snapper fishery. It was found that the type of fishing hook knots used has a significant effect on catch rates. Circle hooks with a snell knot were found to have the highest catch rate by a considerable margin and caught more than twice as many fish as either O'Shaugnessy and Octopus patterned hooks of the same size. Circle hooks have to be snelled as shown to get the better catch rate. The method of tying fishing hooks was also investigated and a difference in catch rate between tying a circle hook versus snelling a circle hook was determined to be around 20% in favor of the snell knot. I'll post a link to his offering.